Re: Postgres vs. PostgreSQL

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Considering that there is up to this day no terminally universal way to
pronounce 'Linux' (unless you know Swedish :), I don't think that's worth
worrying about. Personally, I find PostgreSQL very pronouncable though.

Me too: Post-Gres-Q-L ..

Hmmm. I read an article/interview on Linus and he specifically stated
that it's pronounced "lee-nooks". The article's gone right now but I'm
pretty sure he had the accent on the first sylable.

Vince.
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Considering that there is up to this day no terminally universal way to
pronounce 'Linux' (unless you know Swedish :), I don't think that's worth
worrying about. Personally, I find PostgreSQL very pronouncable though.

Me too: Post-Gres-Q-L ..

Added to first FAQ item.

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Please excuse the intrusion.

As one who has been following this list since its inception and
who vaguely remembers the name change discussion of 3, 4 ... how
many years ago ... let me say that PostgreSQL IS difficult to
know how to pronounce. I remember thinking at the time (and my
son was making a few minor contributions to the code then) that
the new name good sense logically, but was a stumbling block to
introducing the program to the world at large. Of course it's
a fait accompli now.

The specific stumbling block is the capitalization. Unlike the
pronunciation of Linux, where it is merely a question of how to
pronounce the vowels, and everyone can do that naturally in
their own most comfortable way, with postgreSQL the natural
tendency to pronounce the miniscule portion as one 'word' is
always in conflict with the tendency to begin the second 'word'
at the capital S. So one wants to say 'postgres', (which to me
has always immediately conjured up an antonym of 'progress', but
that's another story) but is stopped short, as it were, at
'postgre', an awkward place to stop, at least to native English
speakers.

Maybe if it were written postgresQL, it would be easier to
pronounce correctly when first met. Then the QL would be given
some meaning relevant to the program and the sQL would still
bring to mind the relationship with SQL but in a not quite so
blatant way.

Anyway, I predict that there will always be a problem with the
pronunciation of postgreSQL it as it stands now. (Of course it's
easy to pronounce once you know how to pronounce it.)

Jon

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At 7:27 AM -0700 4/11/00, Bruce Momjian wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Considering that there is up to this day no terminally universal way to
pronounce 'Linux' (unless you know Swedish :), I don't think that's worth
worrying about. Personally, I find PostgreSQL very pronouncable though.

Me too: Post-Gres-Q-L ..

Added to first FAQ item.

Maybe I'm too late, but can I cast a vote for the Southern California
convention?

I regard the switch to SQL query language as a historical artifact which
neither requires ongoing emphasis, nor justifies disinheriting ourselves
from our historical roots. We can easily support the postgres.org domain
name as an alias for the same machines as postgresql.org, and likewise in
the .com domain. I presume UCB already has the trademark for the postgres
name.

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Henry B. Hotz wrote:

At 7:27 AM -0700 4/11/00, Bruce Momjian wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Considering that there is up to this day no terminally universal way to
pronounce 'Linux' (unless you know Swedish :), I don't think that's worth
worrying about. Personally, I find PostgreSQL very pronouncable though.

Me too: Post-Gres-Q-L ..

Added to first FAQ item.

Maybe I'm too late, but can I cast a vote for the Southern California
convention?

About 3 years too late ...