Re: windows docs?

Started by Magnus Haganderover 21 years ago7 messagesdocs
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#1Magnus Hagander
magnus@hagander.net

When starting the Windows psql client I get a warning that the
"console codepage (437) differs from the windows codepage

(1252)" and

to see installation on Windows for details. I am having

trouble finding this

documentation. I've also been looking for the "Windows

FAQ" which was

mentioned in a post. Can anyone point me to documentation that
addresses this issue as well as other window's issues?

http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Windows is a good
starter for current
win32 information. The windows faq
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/text/FAQ_MSWIN) also has
some info, though it might be a little outdated. (updates
welcome).

Might want to rename that one to FAQ_Cygwin or something? ;-) AFAIK, it
has nothing about the native port.

There is an installer-centric faq at
http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org/FAQ_windows.html. It also has
a number of non-installer-specific questinos. I beleive it was Daves
intention to get this one on the main site eventually. If not, perhaps
selected questions should be moved in..

//Magnus

#2Robert Treat
xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
In reply to: Magnus Hagander (#1)

On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:35, Magnus Hagander wrote:

When starting the Windows psql client I get a warning that the
"console codepage (437) differs from the windows codepage

(1252)" and

to see installation on Windows for details. I am having

trouble finding this

documentation. I've also been looking for the "Windows

FAQ" which was

mentioned in a post. Can anyone point me to documentation that
addresses this issue as well as other window's issues?

http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Windows is a good
starter for current
win32 information. The windows faq
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/text/FAQ_MSWIN) also has
some info, though it might be a little outdated. (updates
welcome).

Might want to rename that one to FAQ_Cygwin or something? ;-) AFAIK, it
has nothing about the native port.

There is an installer-centric faq at
http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org/FAQ_windows.html. It also has
a number of non-installer-specific questinos. I beleive it was Daves
intention to get this one on the main site eventually. If not, perhaps
selected questions should be moved in..

I'm thinking rename the current faq to faq_win32_cygwin and then create a new
faq faq_win32_native based the pginstaller one. Does anyone feel they ought
to be combined? I guess another alternative is jut remove faq_mswin from the
main sources and then leave it up to cygwin/native projects to maintain thier
own faqs, with perhaps a single question in the main postgresql pointing to
both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

#3Dave Page
dpage@pgadmin.org
In reply to: Robert Treat (#2)

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Treat [mailto:xzilla@users.sourceforge.net]
Sent: 21 September 2004 12:27
To: Magnus Hagander
Cc: Bender, Cheryl; pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Dave Page;
pgsql-docs@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] windows docs?

?

I'm thinking rename the current faq to faq_win32_cygwin and
then create a new
faq faq_win32_native based the pginstaller one. Does anyone
feel they ought
to be combined?

No, absolutely not - that'll just create further confusion.

I guess another alternative is jut remove
faq_mswin from the main sources and then leave it up to
cygwin/native projects to maintain thier own faqs, with
perhaps a single question in the main postgresql pointing to
both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

The problem with our new FAQ is that much of it is installer specific,
so including it in the main distro which doesn't include the installer
code just seems wrong somehow. Perhaps the existing faq should have a
note in bold at the top directing ppl to the installer FAQ if that's
what they really want, and leave the rest of the doc for Cygwin/Mingw
specific issues.

Regards, Dave.

#4Magnus Hagander
magnus@hagander.net
In reply to: Dave Page (#3)

I guess another alternative is jut remove faq_mswin from the main
sources and then leave it up to cygwin/native projects to maintain
thier own faqs, with perhaps a single question in the main

postgresql

pointing to both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

The problem with our new FAQ is that much of it is installer
specific, so including it in the main distro which doesn't
include the installer code just seems wrong somehow. Perhaps
the existing faq should have a note in bold at the top
directing ppl to the installer FAQ if that's what they really
want, and leave the rest of the doc for Cygwin/Mingw specific issues.

It would be really good if we had a one-stop-shop for FAQ items for
Windows users, though... Look at the installer faq now for example - a
lot of those Qs are about postgreqsl itself and not the installer. But
that's where people look (or in the main FAQ, but not in both). Or we
can chose to live with duplicate questions... As long as we keep the
answers in sync.

//Magnus

#5Robert Treat
xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
In reply to: Magnus Hagander (#4)

On Tuesday 21 September 2004 07:59, Magnus Hagander wrote:

I guess another alternative is jut remove faq_mswin from the main
sources and then leave it up to cygwin/native projects to maintain
thier own faqs, with perhaps a single question in the main

postgresql

pointing to both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

The problem with our new FAQ is that much of it is installer
specific, so including it in the main distro which doesn't
include the installer code just seems wrong somehow. Perhaps
the existing faq should have a note in bold at the top
directing ppl to the installer FAQ if that's what they really
want, and leave the rest of the doc for Cygwin/Mingw specific issues.

It would be really good if we had a one-stop-shop for FAQ items for
Windows users, though... Look at the installer faq now for example - a
lot of those Qs are about postgreqsl itself and not the installer. But
that's where people look (or in the main FAQ, but not in both). Or we
can chose to live with duplicate questions... As long as we keep the
answers in sync.

Well, istm that the # of native users will grow larger than the number of
cygwin users at some point in time (probably right after release, but hey).
Personally I like the idea of a single win32 faq for the main branch with
specific links to both a cygwin and native specific faqs, but barring that,
we could combine both documents together and make a 3 sectioned windows
specific faq, with a section on general stuff, cygwiun stuff, and native
stuff. Both projects could then just link to that faq.

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

#6Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Robert Treat (#2)
Re: [DOCS] windows docs?

I have renamed FAQ_MSWIN to FAQ_CYGWIN.

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Robert Treat wrote:

On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:35, Magnus Hagander wrote:

When starting the Windows psql client I get a warning that the
"console codepage (437) differs from the windows codepage

(1252)" and

to see installation on Windows for details. I am having

trouble finding this

documentation. I've also been looking for the "Windows

FAQ" which was

mentioned in a post. Can anyone point me to documentation that
addresses this issue as well as other window's issues?

http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Windows is a good
starter for current
win32 information. The windows faq
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/text/FAQ_MSWIN) also has
some info, though it might be a little outdated. (updates
welcome).

Might want to rename that one to FAQ_Cygwin or something? ;-) AFAIK, it
has nothing about the native port.

There is an installer-centric faq at
http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org/FAQ_windows.html. It also has
a number of non-installer-specific questinos. I beleive it was Daves
intention to get this one on the main site eventually. If not, perhaps
selected questions should be moved in..

I'm thinking rename the current faq to faq_win32_cygwin and then create a new
faq faq_win32_native based the pginstaller one. Does anyone feel they ought
to be combined? I guess another alternative is jut remove faq_mswin from the
main sources and then leave it up to cygwin/native projects to maintain thier
own faqs, with perhaps a single question in the main postgresql pointing to
both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

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#7Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Robert Treat (#2)
Re: [DOCS] windows docs?

I have moved the MinGW/Win32 project page into FAQ_MINGW in CVS. I
updated it to be more of an FAQ than a project page, and moved the TODO
items the proper places in our official project.

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Robert Treat wrote:

On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:35, Magnus Hagander wrote:

When starting the Windows psql client I get a warning that the
"console codepage (437) differs from the windows codepage

(1252)" and

to see installation on Windows for details. I am having

trouble finding this

documentation. I've also been looking for the "Windows

FAQ" which was

mentioned in a post. Can anyone point me to documentation that
addresses this issue as well as other window's issues?

http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Windows is a good
starter for current
win32 information. The windows faq
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/text/FAQ_MSWIN) also has
some info, though it might be a little outdated. (updates
welcome).

Might want to rename that one to FAQ_Cygwin or something? ;-) AFAIK, it
has nothing about the native port.

There is an installer-centric faq at
http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org/FAQ_windows.html. It also has
a number of non-installer-specific questinos. I beleive it was Daves
intention to get this one on the main site eventually. If not, perhaps
selected questions should be moved in..

I'm thinking rename the current faq to faq_win32_cygwin and then create a new
faq faq_win32_native based the pginstaller one. Does anyone feel they ought
to be combined? I guess another alternative is jut remove faq_mswin from the
main sources and then leave it up to cygwin/native projects to maintain thier
own faqs, with perhaps a single question in the main postgresql pointing to
both of the other faqs... anyone have a preference?

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

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-- 
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  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073