9.1 release notes

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

I have completed and committed my draft of the 9.1 release notes.  They
will be continually updated and improved as we reach final release.

What information should we take from the alpha release notes, and do we
feel the alpha release notes are close enough to the ones I drafted that
we can try avoiding my full release note generation in the future?

I took a crack at moving the useful details from the alpha release
notes into the regular ones, which I do believe are better overall
than the alpha ones. Feel free to adjust as needed. At this point, I
think we should nuke the alpha release notes; I don't see any value in
having two versions around.

In terms of future releases, I think we'd probably need to work a bit
harder on the alpha release notes if we want to avoid the full release
note generation process. That may be a good thing for us to consider
in the future, but at least for this release I'd say we weren't quite
there.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Robert Haas wrote:

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

I have completed and committed my draft of the 9.1 release notes. ?They
will be continually updated and improved as we reach final release.

What information should we take from the alpha release notes, and do we
feel the alpha release notes are close enough to the ones I drafted that
we can try avoiding my full release note generation in the future?

I took a crack at moving the useful details from the alpha release
notes into the regular ones, which I do believe are better overall
than the alpha ones. Feel free to adjust as needed. At this point, I
think we should nuke the alpha release notes; I don't see any value in
having two versions around.

Agreed.

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

Robert Haas wrote:

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

I have completed and committed my draft of the 9.1 release notes. ?They
will be continually updated and improved as we reach final release.

What information should we take from the alpha release notes, and do we
feel the alpha release notes are close enough to the ones I drafted that
we can try avoiding my full release note generation in the future?

I took a crack at moving the useful details from the alpha release
notes into the regular ones, which I do believe are better overall
than the alpha ones.  Feel free to adjust as needed.  At this point, I
think we should nuke the alpha release notes; I don't see any value in
having two versions around.

Agreed.

Should we temporarily move the general disclaimers about alpha
releases into the main release notes, since I think we're going to
wrap alpha5 on Monday?

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

In terms of future releases, I think we'd probably need to work a bit
harder on the alpha release notes if we want to avoid the full release
note generation process. That may be a good thing for us to consider
in the future, but at least for this release I'd say we weren't quite
there.

To my mind, one of the core ideas about the alpha releases was to be
able to pop them out with minimal overhead. It's *already* the case
that generating release notes is the most expensive part of the alpha
release process --- in fact, I'd venture that it's 90% or more of the
effort, just to produce the kind of notes we've produced for the past
alphas. I can't see that we're going to put significantly more effort
than that into them.

regards, tom lane

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

In terms of future releases, I think we'd probably need to work a bit
harder on the alpha release notes if we want to avoid the full release
note generation process.  That may be a good thing for us to consider
in the future, but at least for this release I'd say we weren't quite
there.

To my mind, one of the core ideas about the alpha releases was to be
able to pop them out with minimal overhead.  It's *already* the case
that generating release notes is the most expensive part of the alpha
release process --- in fact, I'd venture that it's 90% or more of the
effort, just to produce the kind of notes we've produced for the past
alphas.  I can't see that we're going to put significantly more effort
than that into them.

I make no judgement on that one way or the other; you may well be
right. I'm merely saying that IF we want to not need to redo the
process at the end, THEN we have to put more effort in earlier.
Whether that will ever happen or whether it would be good I don't care
to pontificate on just now.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

Robert Haas wrote:

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

I have completed and committed my draft of the 9.1 release notes. ?They
will be continually updated and improved as we reach final release.

What information should we take from the alpha release notes, and do we
feel the alpha release notes are close enough to the ones I drafted that
we can try avoiding my full release note generation in the future?

I took a crack at moving the useful details from the alpha release
notes into the regular ones, which I do believe are better overall
than the alpha ones.  Feel free to adjust as needed.  At this point, I
think we should nuke the alpha release notes; I don't see any value in
having two versions around.

Agreed.

Should we temporarily move the general disclaimers about alpha
releases into the main release notes, since I think we're going to
wrap alpha5 on Monday?

Bruce thought this approach made sense, so done.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company