Link to PAM pages broken

On 10 October 2011 17:52, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation.  The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/.  The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution.  I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them.  Any ideas?

Found a link to a site which contains identical Linux PAM information:
http://kernel.osuosl.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-module-reference.html

But even so, I have sent an email to kernel.org notifying them of the
missing pages.

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On 10 October 2011 19:15, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 10 October 2011 17:52, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation.  The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/.  The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution.  I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them.  Any ideas?

Found a link to a site which contains identical Linux PAM information:
http://kernel.osuosl.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-module-reference.html

But even so, I have sent an email to kernel.org notifying them of the
missing pages.

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

--
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Twitter: @darkixion
IRC (freenode): dark_ixion
Registered Linux user: #516935

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 10 October 2011 19:15, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 10 October 2011 17:52, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation.  The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/.  The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution.  I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them.  Any ideas?

Found a link to a site which contains identical Linux PAM information:
http://kernel.osuosl.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-module-reference.html

But even so, I have sent an email to kernel.org notifying them of the
missing pages.

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

I'm happy to commit a doc patch if you have one, but otherwise I'm not
sure what we can do.

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The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Andrew, Thorsten,

What's the best place to link to the Linux PAM docs now that the
kernel.org copy is gone?

Thanks

--- Begin forwarded message from Thom Brown ---
From: Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
To: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@postgresql.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:52:36 -0300
Subject: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation. The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/. The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution. I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them. Any ideas?

--- End forwarded message ---

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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution? AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

regards, tom lane

On 10/28/2011 03:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote:

Robert Haas<robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution? AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

That is my understanding as well.

JD

regards, tom lane

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On 28 October 2011 23:29, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

I had considered that, but then I haven't seen any progress. The site
has been back up for a while, but there doesn't seem to have been much
advancement in restoring the documentation in question. I also
haven't had any feedback from kernel.org with regards to any plan to
restore these docs. I guess this can be revisited in the new year to
see if the situation has changed.

But as for the sun.com links, I don't see those coming back at all.
Those have either been relocated to a secret uncrawlable location, or
it's been deleted. They did exist at least until June this year
(http://web.archive.org/web/20110604010813/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/)
but have since been purged for some unknown reason.

--
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Twitter: @darkixion
IRC (freenode): dark_ixion
Registered Linux user: #516935

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On 29 October 2011 02:04, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 28 October 2011 23:29, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

I had considered that, but then I haven't seen any progress.  The site
has been back up for a while, but there doesn't seem to have been much
advancement in restoring the documentation in question.  I also
haven't had any feedback from kernel.org with regards to any plan to
restore these docs.  I guess this can be revisited in the new year to
see if the situation has changed.

But as for the sun.com links, I don't see those coming back at all.
Those have either been relocated to a secret uncrawlable location, or
it's been deleted.  They did exist at least until June this year
(http://web.archive.org/web/20110604010813/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/)
but have since been purged for some unknown reason.

Having just sent that message, I suddenly stumbled upon this which
might be worth linking to for Solaris:

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19082-01/819-3321/pam-1/index.html

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Thom Brown
Twitter: @darkixion
IRC (freenode): dark_ixion
Registered Linux user: #516935

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Alvaro,

Its been quite some years since I last followed the pam stuff. Since
the kernel.org breakin, pretty much everything there has been undone.
I can ask around about what might be salvagable, but Thorsten really
is the one to know where the latest copy of everything is.

Cheers

Andrew

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 03:11, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 29 October 2011 02:04, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:

On 28 October 2011 23:29, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

I had considered that, but then I haven't seen any progress.  The site
has been back up for a while, but there doesn't seem to have been much
advancement in restoring the documentation in question.  I also
haven't had any feedback from kernel.org with regards to any plan to
restore these docs.  I guess this can be revisited in the new year to
see if the situation has changed.

But as for the sun.com links, I don't see those coming back at all.
Those have either been relocated to a secret uncrawlable location, or
it's been deleted.  They did exist at least until June this year
(http://web.archive.org/web/20110604010813/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/)
but have since been purged for some unknown reason.

Having just sent that message, I suddenly stumbled upon this which
might be worth linking to for Solaris:

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19082-01/819-3321/pam-1/index.html

That doesn't look like an URL that's necessarily very stable...

Would it perhaps be a good idea to have the link in the docs just go
to a page on the wiki, and then point that one onwards? That way,
getting a change out there would be a lot quicker...

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--- Begin forwarded message from Thorsten Kukuk ---
From: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@thkukuk.de>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:40:03 -0300
Subject: Re: Fwd: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

Hi Alvaro,

Am Samstag 29 Oktober 2011, 00:24:18 schrieben Sie:

Andrew, Thorsten,

What's the best place to link to the Linux PAM docs now that the
kernel.org copy is gone?

The last I heared about kernel.org is, that they wanted to take down eveything
and bring back again piece by piece after they are sure that nothing was
modified during the breakin. That's quite some time ago now, and I haven't
heard anything anymore after that. I guess that the kernel part has the
highest priority for them. The staging servers are still not reacheable for
me.

While we have a temporary place for the tar archives at fedorahosted.org, we
haven't looked for a complete replacement, we still hope that kernel.org will
be fully back some time in the not so far future.

Thorsten

--- Begin forwarded message from Thom Brown ---
From: Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
To: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@postgresql.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:52:36 -0300
Subject: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation. The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/. The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution. I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them. Any ideas?

--- End forwarded message ---

--- End forwarded message ---

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