wait event docs

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#1Jeremy Schneider
schnjere@amazon.com
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The wait event information in PostgreSQL is very helpful for
troubleshooting.  I always reference the PostgreSQL docs first, and when
people ask me about wait events that where I send them first.  The list
of wait events there is comprehensive, but the descriptions are a bit
terse and often use vocabulary that requires some familiarity with the
internals to understand.

AWS created some wait event documentation for Aurora with PostgreSQL
compatibility which takes a slightly different approach.  It's a lot
more words... but it tries to give useful suggestions about how to
improve (or fix) the system when a particular wait event is encountered.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/AuroraUserGuide/AuroraPostgreSQL.Reference.html#AuroraPostgreSQL.Reference.Waitevents

Something like this would be really valuable for open source PostgreSQL
too.  While somebody's personal blog is one solution, it doesn't seem
wholly inappropriate to live on a community resource.  I'd be happy to
seed the content and continue making updates it as I regularly helping
people solve problems on open source community PostgreSQL (and hopefully
others contribute too).

Could we create a new wiki page as a starting point, and we could draft
up and maintain something there for a little while?  Maybe a place like
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Wait_Events ?

If it does turn out to be useful for a lot of people then maybe it could
even get into the PG docs someday.  :)

-Jeremy

P.S. my wiki username is "Jer"  https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/User:Jer

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Jeremy Schneider
Database Engineer
Amazon Web Services

#2Michael Paquier
michael@paquier.xyz
In reply to: Jeremy Schneider (#1)
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Re: wait event docs

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 02:07:14PM -0800, Jeremy Schneider wrote:

The wait event information in PostgreSQL is very helpful for
troubleshooting.  I always reference the PostgreSQL docs first, and when
people ask me about wait events that where I send them first.  The list
of wait events there is comprehensive, but the descriptions are a bit
terse and often use vocabulary that requires some familiarity with the
internals to understand.

(I think that it would be better to avoid cross-posting among multiple
lists. Please note that I have removed -www and -general in my reply,
keeping -docs because that7s the most meaningful)

Could we create a new wiki page as a starting point, and we could draft
up and maintain something there for a little while?  Maybe a place like
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Wait_Events ?

That sounds like a good idea, as it is true that the docs are rather
sparse about the meaning behind a given wait event showing a lot in
profiles and what it actually means for your application. We have a
couple of links from the docs to the wiki, so it could be an idea to
add a link to the wiki in the docs near the wait event table. more to
the point, this makes me wonder if actually a better place for such
stuff would be a new section dedicated to wait event profiles here:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/monitoring.html
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Michael

#3Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Michael Paquier (#2)
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Re: wait event docs

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 03:50:29PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 02:07:14PM -0800, Jeremy Schneider wrote:

The wait event information in PostgreSQL is very helpful for
troubleshooting.� I always reference the PostgreSQL docs first, and when
people ask me about wait events that where I send them first.� The list
of wait events there is comprehensive, but the descriptions are a bit
terse and often use vocabulary that requires some familiarity with the
internals to understand.

(I think that it would be better to avoid cross-posting among multiple
lists. Please note that I have removed -www and -general in my reply,
keeping -docs because that7s the most meaningful)

Could we create a new wiki page as a starting point, and we could draft
up and maintain something there for a little while?� Maybe a place like
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Wait_Events ?

That sounds like a good idea, as it is true that the docs are rather
sparse about the meaning behind a given wait event showing a lot in
profiles and what it actually means for your application. We have a
couple of links from the docs to the wiki, so it could be an idea to
add a link to the wiki in the docs near the wait event table. more to
the point, this makes me wonder if actually a better place for such
stuff would be a new section dedicated to wait event profiles here:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/monitoring.html

Agreed, it probably should be in the official docs.

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Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

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