anybody know who the damn list owner is? RE: Postgresql ism & Vacuum?

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#1Oelkers, Phil
phil.oelkers@experian.com

I've been trying to get off this list forever no luck. I thought
I got the damn thing set to nomail, still get mail.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN CONTACT A
LIKE PERSON TO GET OFF THIS DAMN LIST?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Eisentraut [SMTP:e99re41@DoCS.UU.SE]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:59 AM
To: Thomas
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Postgresqlism & Vacuum?

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Thomas wrote:

I think there must be something wrong with the optimiser that it's
"postgresqlism" that you must vacuum analyze frequently.

One thing that is not widely known is that vacuum actually has two
orthogonal tasks: garbage collection and statistics collection (only when
you ANALYZE). The fact that this is combined in one command is a
historical artifact, and there are some voices that want to separate the
commands.

The way I see it, if you have enough disk space you never have to run
vacuum to garbage collect. It might lead to obvious problems when the heap
files get so large that it takes more time to physically access them. The
alternative is to garbage collect on each transaction commit but that
bears its own set of performance implications.

The analyze part would probably not need an exclusive lock on the table
but the vacuum certainly does.

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Peter Eisentraut Sernanders v�g 10:115
peter_e@gmx.net 75262 Uppsala
http://yi.org/peter-e/ Sweden

#2Ed Loehr
eloehr@austin.rr.com
In reply to: Oelkers, Phil (#1)
Re: anybody know who the damn list owner is? RE: Postgresqlism & Vacuum?

"Oelkers, Phil" wrote:

I've been trying to get off this list forever no luck.

See instructions at http://www.PostgreSQL.ORG/mhonarc/pgsql-general/

#3Andy Lewis
alewis@recruitersonline.com
In reply to: Oelkers, Phil (#1)
Re: anybody know who the damn list owner is? RE: Postgresql ism & Vacuum?

For starters I head over to www.postgresql.org

Then I'd probably click on the "Info Central" link and then the "Mailing
lists" link.

From there I'd click on the list that I was subscribed to under "Mailing
List Archives"

Then I'd read the info at the top of the page.....

Those pages haven't really changed in content in years....

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Oelkers, Phil wrote:

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I've been trying to get off this list forever no luck. I thought
I got the damn thing set to nomail, still get mail.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN CONTACT A
LIKE PERSON TO GET OFF THIS DAMN LIST?

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Eisentraut [SMTP:e99re41@DoCS.UU.SE]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:59 AM
To: Thomas
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Postgresqlism & Vacuum?

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Thomas wrote:

I think there must be something wrong with the optimiser that it's
"postgresqlism" that you must vacuum analyze frequently.

One thing that is not widely known is that vacuum actually has two
orthogonal tasks: garbage collection and statistics collection (only when
you ANALYZE). The fact that this is combined in one command is a
historical artifact, and there are some voices that want to separate the
commands.

The way I see it, if you have enough disk space you never have to run
vacuum to garbage collect. It might lead to obvious problems when the heap
files get so large that it takes more time to physically access them. The
alternative is to garbage collect on each transaction commit but that
bears its own set of performance implications.

The analyze part would probably not need an exclusive lock on the table
but the vacuum certainly does.

--
Peter Eisentraut Sernanders v���g 10:115
peter_e@gmx.net 75262 Uppsala
http://yi.org/peter-e/ Sweden