Fw: Talking with other Dbases.

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#1Daryl Chance
dchance@valuedata.net

oops...meant to send to list.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl Chance" <dchance@valuedata.net>
To: "Mitch Vincent" <mitch@venux.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Talking with other Dbases.

If you're talking about connecting to another RDBMSs from within

PostgreSQL

I suppose it would be possible with custom written functions (since most
RDBMSs have a C API) but it being easy depends on your level of

experience

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with C (and the two database APIs)..

what about the ODBC for *nix, or is there one (think i remember seeing
something about it).

You can tunnel virtually anything through SSH, sure.

I know MySQL is fast but just remember, it's just "A filesystem with an

SQL

interface" -- that's ALL... :-)

Cool, thats what I needed to know. as for MySQL, thats about all I really
need :P.

Thanks,
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#2Jeff Hoffmann
jeff@propertykey.com
In reply to: Daryl Chance (#1)
Re: Fw: Talking with other Dbases.

Daryl Chance wrote:

I know MySQL is fast but just remember, it's just "A filesystem with an

SQL

interface" -- that's ALL... :-)

Cool, thats what I needed to know. as for MySQL, thats about all I really
need :P.

without knowing the hardware organization & availability of software,
it's seems strange that you're considering different database systems
for things that one is perfectly capable of performing. it's a bit of a
fallacy that MySQL is better for read only database sites. on the low
end (fewer connections), MySQL might be faster, but you'd have trouble
buying hardware that was slow enough that you'd notice the difference.
i've never used MySQL on a heavily loaded web site, but i've heard
enough about MySQL breaking down to be a bit concerned about that. all
in all, i'm just not clear on why you're interested in the added
headache of multiple database systems & copying data between them.

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Jeff Hoffmann
PropertyKey.com

#3Daryl Chance
dchance@valuedata.net
In reply to: Daryl Chance (#1)
Re: Fw: Talking with other Dbases.

without knowing the hardware organization & availability of software,
it's seems strange that you're considering different database systems
for things that one is perfectly capable of performing. it's a bit of a
fallacy that MySQL is better for read only database sites. on the low
end (fewer connections), MySQL might be faster, but you'd have trouble
buying hardware that was slow enough that you'd notice the difference.
i've never used MySQL on a heavily loaded web site, but i've heard
enough about MySQL breaking down to be a bit concerned about that. all
in all, i'm just not clear on why you're interested in the added
headache of multiple database systems & copying data between them.

As I said in my first email, it just depends :). I do plan on doing
tests against MySQL and Postgrest to see which would be better for
just serving out dynamic content (read only). Whichever one wins
out will be the one i'm going to use. Personally, I've had no problems
at all with MySQL...I'm looking into postgres because MySQL won't
do the things I need to do on my next product version. And, the
data won't be copied between the 2, MySQL will be dumped to, and thats
it. So there won't really be much headache on that part. When the time
comes, I'll choose. Currently, I'm just planning ahead.

Thanks,
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| Daryl Chance | I have made this letter longer then |
| Valuedata, LLC | usual because I lacked the time to |
| Memphis, TN | make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal |
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#4Adam Haberlach
adam@newsnipple.com
In reply to: Daryl Chance (#3)
Re: Fw: Talking with other Dbases.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 11:00:20AM -0500, Daryl Chance wrote:

without knowing the hardware organization & availability of software,
it's seems strange that you're considering different database systems
for things that one is perfectly capable of performing. it's a bit of a
fallacy that MySQL is better for read only database sites. on the low
end (fewer connections), MySQL might be faster, but you'd have trouble
buying hardware that was slow enough that you'd notice the difference.
i've never used MySQL on a heavily loaded web site, but i've heard
enough about MySQL breaking down to be a bit concerned about that. all
in all, i'm just not clear on why you're interested in the added
headache of multiple database systems & copying data between them.

As I said in my first email, it just depends :). I do plan on doing
tests against MySQL and Postgrest to see which would be better for
just serving out dynamic content (read only). Whichever one wins
out will be the one i'm going to use. Personally, I've had no problems
at all with MySQL...I'm looking into postgres because MySQL won't
do the things I need to do on my next product version. And, the
data won't be copied between the 2, MySQL will be dumped to, and thats
it. So there won't really be much headache on that part. When the time
comes, I'll choose. Currently, I'm just planning ahead.

We actually have a split shop here, because I set up the bug database
in postgres, and we later hired a web guy who was more familiar with MySQL.
He has since seen the light and converted much of his stuff to use Postgres,
but there are some semi-remote machines using MySQL. With PHP, even though
there is almost no consistency between database interfaces, it isn't too
hard to use both systems.

I still reccommend going with one database solution, though. Much
easier to set up, maintain, etc. I don't trust MySQL, so I'll let
you guess which one I reccommend...

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#5Sean Carmody
sean@categoricalsolutions.com.au
In reply to: Jeff Hoffmann (#2)
RE: Fw: Talking with other Dbases.

Jeff Hoffmann wrote:

Daryl Chance wrote:

I know MySQL is fast but just remember, it's just "A

filesystem with an

SQL

interface" -- that's ALL... :-)

Cool, thats what I needed to know. as for MySQL, thats about

all I really

need :P.

without knowing the hardware organization & availability of software,
it's seems strange that you're considering different database systems
for things that one is perfectly capable of performing. it's a bit of a
fallacy that MySQL is better for read only database sites. on the low
end (fewer connections), MySQL might be faster, but you'd have trouble
buying hardware that was slow enough that you'd notice the difference.
i've never used MySQL on a heavily loaded web site, but i've heard
enough about MySQL breaking down to be a bit concerned about that. all
in all, i'm just not clear on why you're interested in the added
headache of multiple database systems & copying data between them.

I recently worked on a project in which it was necessary to source data
on a daily basis across the organisation from a variety of sources: Oracle,
SQL server (both 6.5 and 7) and various flat files (each system was
developed
and maintained by relatively autonomous business units). In this case, the
choice of DB was out of my control (it was an M$ shop through & through), so
PostgeSQL was out of the question. If things had been different in this
situation, it would have been very handy to be able to talk to the other
DBs via PostgreSQL.

Sean.