ANY GOOD USER'S GUIDE ONLINE?? (with simple examples)

Hmm, personally I've found the documentation to be quite useful. There are
other sources of information that might help you. A couple of useful books
you might find more useful are PostgreSQL Essential Reference and PostgreSQL
Developers Handbook.

Good luck.

Tim

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From: "paul simdars" <psimdars@lisco.com>
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Subject: [GENERAL] ANY GOOD USER'S GUIDE ONLINE?? (with simple examples)

I did find some things in the user's guide (just not where I was
expecting). So, maybe it has all worked out. I know I feel a lot
better.
Thanks

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, paul simdars wrote:

I am trying to get started with Postgres but it ain't easy. The
documentation, although it may be thorough and very exhaustive, doesn't
have much of practical value in it. I looked in a FAQ which came with
the download -- again, not much useful there unless you wanted to write a
dissertation. Then I found a 'User's Guide' and thought, "Of course, I
have been looking a 'documentation', which, when you think about it, has
done a great job of docmenting, but a 'User's Guide', that's what I've
been looking for!"
Well, it wasn't a real user's guide. I have been able to find useful
items here and there but you have to dig through so much information that
the frustration gets very high.

Like, I am looking for how to insert a timestamp when a record has been
updated. I have found the data type timestamp defined and documented in
documentation, FAQ and 'User's Guide', but nowhere is there an example of
how one would actually insert a timestamp into a record.
Yes, I do have the question of the timestamp, but No that is not my main
question. My main question is this "does there exist a real User's Guide
in postgres-land, with actual examples of how to IMPLEMENT all this
beautifully docmented material?"

You may want to check techdocs.postgresql.org (For the particular question
of timestamps, I'd say probably in the PostgreSQL Cookbook.

I am trying to get started with Postgres

This is what I used to get me going:
http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/aw_pgsql_book/index.html

And this looks pretty good too:
http://www.commandprompt.com/ppbook/

I do recommend buying a book though -- it seems easier to figure things
out.

Have fun! jeff

The PostgreSQL web site has lots of resources, if you
look around. On this page, you will seen under
"General Info" links to the full text of two books
that are sure to help you; you will also see a link to
"Non-FAQ Documentation" which has lots of other useful
resources.

http://www.us.postgresql.org/users-lounge/index.html

--- paul simdars <psimdars@lisco.com> wrote:

I am trying to get started with Postgres but it
ain't easy. The
documentation, although it may be thorough and very
exhaustive, doesn't
have much of practical value in it. I looked in a
FAQ which came with
the download -- again, not much useful there unless
you wanted to write a
dissertation. Then I found a 'User's Guide' and
thought, "Of course, I
have been looking a 'documentation', which, when you
think about it, has
done a great job of docmenting, but a 'User's
Guide', that's what I've
been looking for!"
Well, it wasn't a real user's guide. I have been
able to find useful
items here and there but you have to dig through so
much information that
the frustration gets very high.
Like, I am looking for how to insert a timestamp
when a record has been
updated. I have found the data type timestamp
defined and documented in
documentation, FAQ and 'User's Guide', but nowhere
is there an example of
how one would actually insert a timestamp into a
record.
Yes, I do have the question of the timestamp, but No
that is not my main
question. My main question is this "does there
exist a real User's Guide
in postgres-land, with actual examples of how to
IMPLEMENT all this
beautifully docmented material?"
Sorry for putting you through this (if you made it
this far), but I just
needed to get this out of my system.
Thanks,
Paul

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I would highly recommend Bruce Momjian's excellent Book, PostgreSQL:
Introduction and Concepts. It is available online here:

http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/aw_pgsql_book/index.html

It's also available at all of your better bookstores :).

Jason

"paul simdars" <psimdars@lisco.com> writes:

I think you may find the Practical PostgreSQL book from O'Reilly/Command
Prompt a bit more helpful. (I intend no slight toward Mr. Momjian or his
fine work. We clearly owe him a lot. I do think the Introductions and
Concepts book is a hair too terse for beginners.) It's reasonably
well-written--with the exception of the LXP chapter, which looks like the
work of different person style-wise--and is a little more complete in its
coverage of things like pl/pgsql.
-J

Jason Earl
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02/21/02 12:36 PM

I would highly recommend Bruce Momjian's excellent Book, PostgreSQL:
Introduction and Concepts. It is available online here:

http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/aw_pgsql_book/index.html

It's also available at all of your better bookstores :).

Jason

"paul simdars" <psimdars@lisco.com> writes:

I am trying to get started with Postgres but it ain't easy. The
documentation, although it may be thorough and very exhaustive, doesn't
have much of practical value in it. I looked in a FAQ which came with
the download -- again, not much useful there unless you wanted to write a
dissertation. Then I found a 'User's Guide' and thought, "Of course, I
have been looking a 'documentation', which, when you think about it, has
done a great job of docmenting, but a 'User's Guide', that's what I've
been looking for!"
Well, it wasn't a real user's guide. I have been able to find useful
items here and there but you have to dig through so much information that
the frustration gets very high.
Like, I am looking for how to insert a timestamp when a record has been
updated. I have found the data type timestamp defined and documented in
documentation, FAQ and 'User's Guide', but nowhere is there an example of
how one would actually insert a timestamp into a record.
Yes, I do have the question of the timestamp, but No that is not my main
question. My main question is this "does there exist a real User's Guide
in postgres-land, with actual examples of how to IMPLEMENT all this
beautifully docmented material?"
Sorry for putting you through this (if you made it this far), but I just
needed to get this out of my system.
Thanks,
Paul

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You're in luck. Here's the entire O'Reilly 'Practical PostgreSQL' book
online: http://www.commandprompt.com/ppbook/

Pete

paul simdars wrote: