Re: ANY GOOD USER'S GUIDE ONLINE?? (with simple example

I have just gotten Mr. Momjiuan's book today & already it has helped me
tremendously
I previously had gotten the Practical PostgreSql & in my opinion, it is
not quite as extensive as Mr. Momjian's book.

I too am very new to postgresql coming from an oracle background & am
learning
the various new/different working with PostgreSql.

Pam Wampler

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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] ANY GOOD USER'S GUIDE ONLINE?? (with simple
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I think you may find the Practical PostgreSQL book from O'Reilly/Command
Prompt a bit more helpful. (I intend no slight toward Mr. Momjian or his
fine work. We clearly owe him a lot. I do think the Introductions and
Concepts book is a hair too terse for beginners.) It's reasonably
well-written--with the exception of the LXP chapter, which looks like the
work of different person style-wise--and is a little more complete in its
coverage of things like pl/pgsql.
-J

Jason Earl

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02/21/02 12:36 PM

I would highly recommend Bruce Momjian's excellent Book, PostgreSQL:
Introduction and Concepts. It is available online here:

http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/aw_pgsql_book/index.html

It's also available at all of your better bookstores :).

Jason

"paul simdars" <psimdars@lisco.com> writes:

I am trying to get started with Postgres but it ain't easy. The
documentation, although it may be thorough and very exhaustive, doesn't
have much of practical value in it. I looked in a FAQ which came with
the download -- again, not much useful there unless you wanted to write a
dissertation. Then I found a 'User's Guide' and thought, "Of course, I
have been looking a 'documentation', which, when you think about it, has
done a great job of docmenting, but a 'User's Guide', that's what I've
been looking for!"
Well, it wasn't a real user's guide. I have been able to find useful
items here and there but you have to dig through so much information that
the frustration gets very high.
Like, I am looking for how to insert a timestamp when a record has been
updated. I have found the data type timestamp defined and documented in
documentation, FAQ and 'User's Guide', but nowhere is there an example of
how one would actually insert a timestamp into a record.
Yes, I do have the question of the timestamp, but No that is not my main
question. My main question is this "does there exist a real User's Guide
in postgres-land, with actual examples of how to IMPLEMENT all this
beautifully docmented material?"
Sorry for putting you through this (if you made it this far), but I just
needed to get this out of my system.
Thanks,
Paul

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Pam Wampler wrote:

I have just gotten Mr. Momjiuan's book today & already it has
helped me tremendously I previously had gotten the Practical
PostgreSql & in my opinion, it is not quite as extensive as
Mr. Momjian's book.

I too am very new to postgresql coming from an oracle background
& am learning the various new/different working with PostgreSql.

OK, let me chime in here. I think the books present their material in
different ways, and the good thing is that they are both online so
people can choose the book that best meets their needs best. Here is an
article I wrote one year after my book was published that goes over some
of this:

http://www.ca.postgresql.org/docs/momjian/bookoneyear.html

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