DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

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#1Justin Clift
justin@postgresql.org

Hi everyone,

Just came across an old email asking about DbVisualizer support and PG.

Does anyone know if the problems that the PostgresQL JDBC driver used to
have in passing along Referential Integrity information were fixed to
the point that DbVisualizer worked well?

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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#2Francois Suter
dba@paragraf.ch
In reply to: Justin Clift (#1)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

Does anyone know if the problems that the PostgresQL JDBC driver used to
have in passing along Referential Integrity information were fixed to
the point that DbVisualizer worked well?

Hi,

I don't know if I'm answering well to your question, at least I don't have
7.3 running yet. But there was indeed a time where DBVis was unable to
display the referential integrity constraints past a certain quantity of
constraints. I'm now using version 3.0 and I can display all the constraints
(30+) again.

Hope this helps.

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#3Justin Clift
justin@postgresql.org
In reply to: Francois Suter (#2)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

Francois Suter wrote:
<snip>

Hi,

I don't know if I'm answering well to your question, at least I don't have
7.3 running yet. But there was indeed a time where DBVis was unable to
display the referential integrity constraints past a certain quantity of
constraints. I'm now using version 3.0 and I can display all the constraints
(30+) again.

Thanks Francois,

That does help a lot. DbVisualizer 2.x was a great tool and it was a
real shame that it had problems with our JDBC driver. It's very good
news that it now works. Sounds like it might be easy to get good
printouts of database schema's now.

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

Hope this helps.

--------
Francois

Home page: http://www.monpetitcoin.com/
"We waste our time spending money we don't have to buy things we don't need
to impress people we don't like"

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who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
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#4Adam Witney
awitney@sghms.ac.uk
In reply to: Justin Clift (#3)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

On 5/12/02 10:11 am, "Justin Clift" <justin@postgresql.org> wrote:

Francois Suter wrote:
<snip>

Hi,

I don't know if I'm answering well to your question, at least I don't have
7.3 running yet. But there was indeed a time where DBVis was unable to
display the referential integrity constraints past a certain quantity of
constraints. I'm now using version 3.0 and I can display all the constraints
(30+) again.

Thanks Francois,

That does help a lot. DbVisualizer 2.x was a great tool and it was a
real shame that it had problems with our JDBC driver. It's very good
news that it now works. Sounds like it might be easy to get good
printouts of database schema's now.

One problem I had with this was that if you arrange your tables around the
screen then you couldn't save that 'view' of the tables and so when you
opened up the program again all the tables were back organised in one line
or in one column. Otherwise it looked a really nice tool.

adam

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#5Francois Suter
dba@paragraf.ch
In reply to: Adam Witney (#4)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

One problem I had with this was that if you arrange your tables around the
screen then you couldn't save that 'view' of the tables and so when you
opened up the program again all the tables were back organised in one line
or in one column. Otherwise it looked a really nice tool.

True. That's an annoying limitation. And it doesn't seem like the paying
version addresses that. Maybe we can suggest it for their TODO list if it's
not already there :-)

--------
Francois

Home page: http://www.monpetitcoin.com/
"We waste our time spending money we don't have to buy things we don't need
to impress people we don't like"

#6Adam Witney
awitney@sghms.ac.uk
In reply to: Francois Suter (#5)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

On 5/12/02 10:35 am, "Francois Suter" <dba@paragraf.ch> wrote:

One problem I had with this was that if you arrange your tables around the
screen then you couldn't save that 'view' of the tables and so when you
opened up the program again all the tables were back organised in one line
or in one column. Otherwise it looked a really nice tool.

True. That's an annoying limitation. And it doesn't seem like the paying
version addresses that. Maybe we can suggest it for their TODO list if it's
not already there :-)

Yes, I spoke to them about it and they said it was planned for a future
version, but they did not know which future version!!

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#7Csaba Nagy
nagy@domeus.de
In reply to: Adam Witney (#6)
Re: DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

If you want to try out something new (and possibly buggy), take a look at
this:
http://dprutean.tripod.com/
You can arrange your layout and save it and more, all of this through a web
interface, and the data is saved in plain XML... quite amazing.
I've got it working with Oracle, but I couldn't do schema import from
Postgres, it hangs for some reason.

The author says it's a Postgres JDBC bug, looks like the
java.sql.DatabaseMetaData#getCrossReference(String primaryCatalog, String
primarySchema, String primaryTable, String foreignCatalog, String
foreignSchema, String foreignTable) method hangs in any of the following
situations:
a) primaryTable is null;
b) foreignTable is null;
c) primaryTable == foreignTable;
The author sais these inputs are valid according to the JDBC spec.

Cheers,
Csaba.

le si foreignTable acceeasi valoare ( ca si cum ai vrea sa vezi daca o
tabela se autoreferentiaza ).
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On 5/12/02 10:35 am, "Francois Suter" <dba@paragraf.ch> wrote:

One problem I had with this was that if you arrange your tables around

the

screen then you couldn't save that 'view' of the tables and so when you
opened up the program again all the tables were back organised in one

line

or in one column. Otherwise it looked a really nice tool.

True. That's an annoying limitation. And it doesn't seem like the paying
version addresses that. Maybe we can suggest it for their TODO list if

it's

not already there :-)

Yes, I spoke to them about it and they said it was planned for a future
version, but they did not know which future version!!

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