Re: OT: This list is Razored
The solution to spam is going to have hiccups, that's for sure! And it's only started.
Fro example, if I use an Access Control List for blocking unwanted email, I will get the email
form thsi group fine. But everyone who cc's me as they reply to the email (or visa versa, I've
nerver been on a group that had the headers set up as the poster is the from and the list is the
cc before coming to this list) everybody's post could be returned to them. But ACL's are pretty
good to use, esepcially in combination with a content filter for blocking spoofed addresses.
Evenually it's going to take lock and key approach with PGP signings.
So, I agree it's STUPID to submit this list to the Razor site, but this stuff will get more
common as we start getting serious about trying to stomp out spammers.
2/6/2003 3:28:04 PM, "Alastair D'Silva" <deece@newmillennium.net.au> wrote:
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Will the user who is autosubmitting emails from this list to the Razor
spam blacklist *please* stop it, otherwise I'm going to start revoking
every message you submit.Hmm, come to think of it, that wouldn't be such a bad idea anyway, since
anyone who submits mails to a blacklist without checking them first
deserves to be shot.--
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On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:44:34 -0800,
Dennis Gearon <gearond@cvc.net> wrote:
Fro example, if I use an Access Control List for blocking unwanted email, I will get the email
form thsi group fine. But everyone who cc's me as they reply to the email (or visa versa, I've
nerver been on a group that had the headers set up as the poster is the from and the list is the
cc before coming to this list) everybody's post could be returned to them. But ACL's are pretty
good to use, esepcially in combination with a content filter for blocking spoofed addresses.
Evenually it's going to take lock and key approach with PGP signings.
It is fairly normal on technical lists not to mung the reply-to headers.
If you use follow-up-to headers you can tell (at least some) mail clients
that you are subscribed to the list and don't want to be included on the
cc header.
If you aren't worried about people trying to reply just to you and sending
to the list, you can set up your mail client to set the reply-to header
to the list when sending to or cc'ing the list (at least with some mail
clients).
"DG" == Dennis Gearon <gearond@cvc.net> writes:
DG> So, I agree it's STUPID to submit this list to the Razor site, but
DG> this stuff will get more common as we start getting serious about
DG> trying to stomp out spammers.
There are people who do this on purpose to poison the lists such as
Razor. That's why Razor2 has reporting credentials and revocation, so
these bad reporters can be ignored (until they make new IDs...)
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There sure is a lot to the mail protocol, more to learn here I see! Thanks Bruno.
2/6/2003 1:37:43 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
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On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:44:34 -0800,
Dennis Gearon <gearond@cvc.net> wrote:Fro example, if I use an Access Control List for blocking unwanted email, I will get the email
form thsi group fine. But everyone who cc's me as they reply to the email (or visa versa, I've
nerver been on a group that had the headers set up as the poster is the from and the list is the
cc before coming to this list) everybody's post could be returned to them. But ACL's are pretty
good to use, esepcially in combination with a content filter for blocking spoofed addresses.
Evenually it's going to take lock and key approach with PGP signings.It is fairly normal on technical lists not to mung the reply-to headers.
If you use follow-up-to headers you can tell (at least some) mail clients
that you are subscribed to the list and don't want to be included on the
cc header.
If you aren't worried about people trying to reply just to you and sending
to the list, you can set up your mail client to set the reply-to header
to the list when sending to or cc'ing the list (at least with some mail
clients).
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 02:04, Alastair D'Silva wrote:
3. American (note: this isn't intended as a slight against Americans,
its just that a lot of media coverage of them here in Aus shows them as
always trying to blame others for their problems).
All right that's it! Once we're done with Saddam you guys are next!!
Robert Treat
(I think the best part is that I think everyone running this listserv is
either Canadian or Australian)
:-) :-)
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