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#1Vince Vielhaber
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Who the hell are these people and why can't they configure their
own MTA?

Vince.
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From: MAILER-DAEMON@ic.kharkov.ua
To: vev@michvhf.com
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ic.kharkov.ua.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:38:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>,
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, no one complained/commented on my idea of having global users have a
trailing '@', so here is a patch that implements that. It has the
advantages of:

Probably because not everyone saw it. I know I didn't. This entire
issue is growing more and more complex. How about a configure item
to not even compile it in? Or better yet, a configure item to put
it there with the default off.

I think I am prety close, and I don't see a configure flag as any better
than a GUC option that is off by default.

But how many people would even use it? I can't see adding the bloat
unnecessarily and risking it accidently being turned on. Am I wrong
and really alot of people actually want/need this?

Vince.
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#2Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#1)
Re: failure notice (fwd)

Yep, I just sent email to Marc to remove them.

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Vince Vielhaber wrote:

Who the hell are these people and why can't they configure their
own MTA?

Vince.
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Date: 15 Aug 2002 16:47:22 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@ic.kharkov.ua
To: vev@michvhf.com
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ic.kharkov.ua.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:38:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>,
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, no one complained/commented on my idea of having global users have a
trailing '@', so here is a patch that implements that. It has the
advantages of:

Probably because not everyone saw it. I know I didn't. This entire
issue is growing more and more complex. How about a configure item
to not even compile it in? Or better yet, a configure item to put
it there with the default off.

I think I am prety close, and I don't see a configure flag as any better
than a GUC option that is off by default.

But how many people would even use it? I can't see adding the bloat
unnecessarily and risking it accidently being turned on. Am I wrong
and really alot of people actually want/need this?

Vince.
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#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#1)
Re: failure notice (fwd)

Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes:

Who the hell are these people and why can't they configure their
own MTA?

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ic.kharkov.ua.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
Connected to 192.204.191.242 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550 5.0.0 Go away, your mailserver is broken

Oh my. I started blocking them about two hours ago after the first
dozen or so duplicate copies of messages came through here. It didn't
occur to me that I might be making the problem worse for other victims :-(.
Sorry about that.

Marc, would you please kill whoever-it-is-at-kharkov.ua from the mailing
lists, pronto?

regards, tom lane

#4The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#1)
Re: failure notice (fwd)

all gone ...

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

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Who the hell are these people and why can't they configure their
own MTA?

Vince.
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Date: 15 Aug 2002 16:47:22 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@ic.kharkov.ua
To: vev@michvhf.com
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ic.kharkov.ua.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
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To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, no one complained/commented on my idea of having global users have a
trailing '@', so here is a patch that implements that. It has the
advantages of:

Probably because not everyone saw it. I know I didn't. This entire
issue is growing more and more complex. How about a configure item
to not even compile it in? Or better yet, a configure item to put
it there with the default off.

I think I am prety close, and I don't see a configure flag as any better
than a GUC option that is off by default.

But how many people would even use it? I can't see adding the bloat
unnecessarily and risking it accidently being turned on. Am I wrong
and really alot of people actually want/need this?

Vince.
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