Alternative replication method.

Started by Mike Benoitalmost 23 years ago4 messagesgeneral
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#1Mike Benoit
mikeb@netnation.com

Has anyone used PostgreSQL with Drbd
(http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/)?

They claim it works with PostgreSQL. Do the PostgreSQL hackers forsee
any issues with this type of replication method?

Do you think this method (combined with some other HA utilities) could
work well as a "hot-spare" database server?

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Mike Benoit
NetNation Communications Inc.
Systems Engineer
Tel: 604-684-6892 or 888-983-6600
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#2Jonathan Bartlett
johnnyb@eskimo.com
In reply to: Mike Benoit (#1)
Re: Alternative replication method.

I haven't used this. It would probably work, but there's also another
way just using plain SCSI. You can attach both your main machine and a
hot standby to an external RAID array. When the main machine goes down,
just mount the RAID array yourself. However, you should also install a
serial power switch so that you can kill the other server dead to prevent
possible damage.

Jon

On 24 Jun 2003, Mike Benoit wrote:

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Has anyone used PostgreSQL with Drbd
(http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/)?

They claim it works with PostgreSQL. Do the PostgreSQL hackers forsee
any issues with this type of replication method?

Do you think this method (combined with some other HA utilities) could
work well as a "hot-spare" database server?

--
Best Regards,

Mike Benoit
NetNation Communications Inc.
Systems Engineer
Tel: 604-684-6892 or 888-983-6600
---------------------------------------

Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are my own and not
necessarily those of my employer

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#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Mike Benoit (#1)
Re: Alternative replication method.

Mike Benoit <mikeb@netnation.com> writes:

Has anyone used PostgreSQL with Drbd
(http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/)?

Does it guarantee preservation of write ordering?

regards, tom lane

#4Mike Benoit
mikeb@netnation.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#3)
Re: Alternative replication method.

According to section 5 in this:

http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/publications/drbd_paper_for_LK7.pdf

it looks like it does guarantee write order.

<snip>
5 Write ordering
Some file systems require that certain blocks hit the media in a
determined order, for example a JFS
needs to write a transaction (the commit record must be last) into the
journal before it does any updates
to the home locations.
It does this by postponing the home location updates until it knows that
the writes to the journal are
on stable storage. (This is done with wait_on_buffer() and/or
buffer_uptodate())

From the DRBD's point of view the question is, which blocks might be

reordered when writing to the
secondary's disk.
To ensure exactly the same write order as on the primary, we must use
the following scheme:
1. Get a block from the network and put it onto the buffer cache.
2. Write that buffer and wait for IO completion.
3. Continue with 1.
...
</snip>

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:44, Tom Lane wrote:

Mike Benoit <mikeb@netnation.com> writes:

Has anyone used PostgreSQL with Drbd
(http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/)?

Does it guarantee preservation of write ordering?

regards, tom lane

--
Best Regards,

Mike Benoit
NetNation Communications Inc.
Systems Engineer
Tel: 604-684-6892 or 888-983-6600
---------------------------------------

Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are my own and not
necessarily those of my employer