PostgreSQL License Question

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#1Ryan Mack
rmack@mackman.net

First, I want to confirm my understanding that the "without fee" clause in
the PostgreSQL license means that a party may not sell PostgreSQL or works
derived from the PostgreSQL source code.

Second, do loadable PostgreSQL modules constitute a derived work? Can a
party develop new PostgreSQL types or functions and sell them as loadable
modules under their own open or closed source license?

Finally, do applications that install and rely on an unmodified version of
PostgreSQL constitute a derived work?

I apologize if these questions have already been answered on this list,
but I was unable to find them in the archive. Also, please reply to me
directly, I am not subscribed.

Thank you, Ryan Mack

#2The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Ryan Mack (#1)
Re: PostgreSQL License Question

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Ryan Mack wrote:

First, I want to confirm my understanding that the "without fee" clause in
the PostgreSQL license means that a party may not sell PostgreSQL or works
derived from the PostgreSQL source code.

Nope, you are free to do with PostgreSQL (or any derived works) what you
will ... we are a BSD licensed ... "without fee" means that you can do
what you like with it *without* having to pay anyone for that right ...

#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#2)
Re: PostgreSQL License Question

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

Nope, you are free to do with PostgreSQL (or any derived works) what you
will ... we are a BSD licensed ... "without fee" means that you can do
what you like with it *without* having to pay anyone for that right ...

In particular, "without fee" means that we (the developers) don't charge
anything for our work. You're free to charge for your work. Selling a
customized version of Postgres for whatever you can get for it is okay
by us.

regards, tom lane

#4Paul Thomas
paul@tmsl.demon.co.uk
In reply to: Ryan Mack (#1)
Re: PostgreSQL License Question

On 01/11/2003 01:36 Ryan Mack wrote:

First, I want to confirm my understanding that the "without fee" clause
in
the PostgreSQL license means that a party may not sell PostgreSQL or
works
derived from the PostgreSQL source code.

Second, do loadable PostgreSQL modules constitute a derived work? Can a
party develop new PostgreSQL types or functions and sell them as loadable
modules under their own open or closed source license?

Finally, do applications that install and rely on an unmodified version
of
PostgreSQL constitute a derived work?

I apologize if these questions have already been answered on this list,
but I was unable to find them in the archive. Also, please reply to me
directly, I am not subscribed.

Thank you, Ryan Mack

My understanding is that PostgreSQL's BSD-style license leaves you free to
do whatever want with the it and that includes creating a commercial
closed-source derived version. Unlike the GPL, there are no issues of
derived works or licensing issues if you compile your software to include
PostgreSQL headers or libraries. So develop whatever you want and release
as either open or closed source as fits your needs.

HTH

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#5Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Paul Thomas (#4)
Re: PostgreSQL License Question

Paul Thomas wrote:

but I was unable to find them in the archive. Also, please reply to me
directly, I am not subscribed.

Thank you, Ryan Mack

My understanding is that PostgreSQL's BSD-style license leaves you free to
do whatever want with the it and that includes creating a commercial
closed-source derived version. Unlike the GPL, there are no issues of
derived works or licensing issues if you compile your software to include
PostgreSQL headers or libraries. So develop whatever you want and release
as either open or closed source as fits your needs.

I tell people the only BSD restriction is "don't sue us".

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