Relational data model dead?

Started by Martín Marquésover 22 years ago6 messagesgeneral
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#1Martín Marqués
martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar

Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
SQL99 writing?

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#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Martín Marqués (#1)
Re: Relational data model dead?

Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:

Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

I get a "not found"...

Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
SQL99 writing?

Unlikely; if they are of the persuasion that relational DBs are
uninteresting, they'd hardly be spending time working on bigger and
better(?) standards for relational DBs.

"Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

regards, tom lane

#3Martín Marqués
martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: Relational data model dead?

El Lun 15 Dic 2003 20:08, escribió:

Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:

Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

I get a "not found"...

http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p1.zip

Sorry, my wrong.

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#4Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: Relational data model dead?

Tom Lane wrote:

Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:

Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

I get a "not found"...

Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
SQL99 writing?

Unlikely; if they are of the persuasion that relational DBs are
uninteresting, they'd hardly be spending time working on bigger and
better(?) standards for relational DBs.

"Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

Maybe it means there isn't anything interesting to study about
relational databases. From an academic perspective, the fact it meets
people's needs is beyond the point. :-)

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#5Chris Browne
cbbrowne@acm.org
In reply to: Martín Marqués (#1)
Re: Relational data model dead?

tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us (Tom Lane) writes:

"Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

The fundamental problem there is that it is difficult for academics to
come up with original research surrounding relational databases. This
may make them a poor area of study for academics, but implies nothing
about their usefulness in practice.
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#6Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl
In reply to: Martín Marqués (#3)
Re: Relational data model dead?

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:14:09PM -0300, Martin Marques wrote:

El Lun 15 Dic 2003 20:08, escribi�:

Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:

Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

I get a "not found"...

http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p1.zip

Sorry, my wrong.

AFAICS it only talks about how SQL99 extends the previous data models ...
(SQL92, etc). So it's not so much a death of the relational model.
Looks like more an attempt at getting attention than the typical
academic dismiss of "real world theory."

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