PostgreSQL License

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#1Artemy
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What about the PostgreSQL License. If I use the database for the commercial purpose, Do
I have to purchase the license?.

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

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Artjom Smekalin

#2Oleg Bartunov
oleg@sai.msu.su
In reply to: Artemy (#1)
Re: PostgreSQL License

PostgreSQL has BSD license. Tha means do what do you want :)

Oleg
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Artemy wrote:

What about the PostgreSQL License. If I use the database for the commercial purpose, Do
I have to purchase the license?.

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

Best Regards
Artjom Smekalin

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#3Andrew Rawnsley
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In reply to: Artemy (#1)
Re: PostgreSQL License

Nope. PostgreSQL is BSD licensed.

On Feb 10, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Artemy wrote:

What about the PostgreSQL License. If I use the database for the
commercial purpose, Do
I have to purchase the license?.

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

Best Regards
Artjom Smekalin

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#4Jan Wieck
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In reply to: Andrew Rawnsley (#3)
Re: PostgreSQL License

Andrew Rawnsley wrote:

Nope. PostgreSQL is BSD licensed.

BSD basically means "If you find someone who is willing to pay you money
for this, congratulations. But don't expect us to take responsibility
for it and don't try to sue us for whatever happened".

Jan

On Feb 10, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Artemy wrote:

What about the PostgreSQL License. If I use the database for the
commercial purpose, Do
I have to purchase the license?.

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

P.P.S. BSE is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, also known as Mad Cow
Disease. Even if MySQL has a few features that might be described this
way, we do not appreciate this sort of MySQL-bashing on our
mailinglists, okay?

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Artjom Smekalin

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#5Chris Browne
cbbrowne@acm.org
In reply to: Artemy (#1)
Re: PostgreSQL License

JanWieck@Yahoo.com (Jan Wieck) writes:

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

P.P.S. BSE is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, also known as Mad Cow
Disease. Even if MySQL has a few features that might be described this
way, we do not appreciate this sort of MySQL-bashing on our
mailinglists, okay?

Indeed. Association of MySQL(tm) with BSE is the sort of thing that
the owners of the trademark would doubtless consider to fall into the
set of things that are detrimental, harmful, and damaging.

"The use must not be detrimental, i.e., harmful or damaging, to the
value of any of the MySQL Marks, or to MySQL AB, its brand
integrity, reputation or goodwill"

Remmber also that...

"When using any MySQL AB Mark, you should use the "tm" symbol. This
symbol provides notice to third parties of MySQL AB's rights in its
Marks."

Furthermore, there is a requirement beyond that... The following
attribution statement must be used in all material referencing the
MySQL AB Marks:

"[Insert the MySQL Marks that appears in that particular piece] is a
registered trademark of MySQL AB in the United States, the European
Union and other countries."

Lest they should decide to sue me for improper attribution, I'll make
sure I attribute things properly. (And I rather think that everyone
else that discusses it should be expected to attribute it properly...
If that seems annoying and anal-retentive, well, yes, I'm trying to
make it annoying...)

MySQL is a registered trademark of MySQL AB in the United States, the
European Union and other countries.
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#6scott.marlowe
scott.marlowe@ihs.com
In reply to: Chris Browne (#5)
Re: PostgreSQL License

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Chris Browne wrote:

JanWieck@Yahoo.com (Jan Wieck) writes:

P.S. For example MySQL Databse have the commercial license for that.

P.P.S. BSE is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, also known as Mad Cow
Disease. Even if MySQL has a few features that might be described this
way, we do not appreciate this sort of MySQL-bashing on our
mailinglists, okay?

Indeed. Association of MySQL(tm) with BSE is the sort of thing that
the owners of the trademark would doubtless consider to fall into the
set of things that are detrimental, harmful, and damaging.

"The use must not be detrimental, i.e., harmful or damaging, to the
value of any of the MySQL Marks, or to MySQL AB, its brand
integrity, reputation or goodwill"

Remmber also that...

"When using any MySQL AB Mark, you should use the "tm" symbol. This
symbol provides notice to third parties of MySQL AB's rights in its
Marks."

Furthermore, there is a requirement beyond that... The following
attribution statement must be used in all material referencing the
MySQL AB Marks:

"[Insert the MySQL Marks that appears in that particular piece] is a
registered trademark of MySQL AB in the United States, the European
Union and other countries."

Lest they should decide to sue me for improper attribution, I'll make
sure I attribute things properly. (And I rather think that everyone
else that discusses it should be expected to attribute it properly...
If that seems annoying and anal-retentive, well, yes, I'm trying to
make it annoying...)

MySQL is a registered trademark of MySQL AB in the United States, the
European Union and other countries.

Actually, unless you're a licensee, they have no more control over how you
use MySQL (tm) than provided by international / national copyright laws
give them, no matter how much they try to get from you. And since the GPL
doesn't allow one to ADD restrictions to GPL software, and in no ways
addresses trademark usage, but only distribution, as long as you aren't
distributing MySQL (tm) they have no right to say how you can use their
mark outside of how the international / national laws that bind you
personally say.

Fair use means you can say "I think MySQL (tm) is utter crapola" and
you're ok. You're not a licensee of MySQL AB, you signed no contract, and
you are giving them their trademark due by putting the TM mark in.

No amount of gum flapping from them changes that. they have no more hold
on you than standard international / national trademark law.