Visual Designer in linux?

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:32:30PM -0500, Eric wrote:

Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would
like to developp my data model on the computer...

I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL.

You can have UML diagrams exported to SQL with some Perl or Python program
whose URL you can find on Dia's homepage. dia2sql or something like
that. It's damn easy. Hmm ... I think I got the URL somewhere ...
yes, you are lucky: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/

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I tried a lot of apps. The one I prefer is "DbDesigner4" but I don't
see support for postgresql... Only Oracle, mySQL...

There is support for ODBC, I don't know if that will do the job if I
install Unix-ODBC and create a postgres data source.

The point is, IF I succeed to make it work with postgres, I don't know
if I will have a non-optimized database at the end... because
DBDesigner4 won't take profit of postgres features?

There is an ODBC driver for windows that will then talk native to the
PostgreSQL database, why not use that?

Also what features do you think something might be able to use anyway
to "optimise"?

Hope this helps,

On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 02:49:06PM -0500, Eric wrote:

I tried a lot of apps. The one I prefer is "DbDesigner4" but I don't
see support for postgresql... Only Oracle, mySQL...

There is support for ODBC, I don't know if that will do the job if I
install Unix-ODBC and create a postgres data source.

The point is, IF I succeed to make it work with postgres, I don't know
if I will have a non-optimized database at the end... because
DBDesigner4 won't take profit of postgres features?

On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 00:29, Alvaro Herrera Munoz wrote:

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:32:30PM -0500, Eric wrote:

Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would
like to developp my data model on the computer...

I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL.

You can have UML diagrams exported to SQL with some Perl or Python program
whose URL you can find on Dia's homepage. dia2sql or something like
that. It's damn easy. Hmm ... I think I got the URL somewhere ...
yes, you are lucky: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/

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On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 16:32, Eric wrote:

Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would
like to developp my data model on the computer...

'Druid' is a Java app that does schema diagrams and point and click
table management stuff:

http://druid.sourceforge.net/

I haven't used it myself, but I know people that have and think it's
pretty good.

Grant

On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 14:54, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:

There is an ODBC driver for windows that will then talk native to the
PostgreSQL database, why not use that?

Because I'm on linux :p

Eric wrote:

Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would
like to developpASCIIata model on the computer...

I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL.

If you like Qt can use Qt-Designer (assuming you have the PostgreSQL odbc
driver installed) or you can use KDevelop and merge Qt gui's with it.

I prefer Python and Boa_Constructor (which requires wxPython) and a unixODBC
DNS to PostgreSQL. Boa creates ASCII source files which version control
nicely. It has a great runtime debugger with stops, watches, var
displays,etc.

If you use Java then JDeveloper with an ODBC line to PostgreSQL works OK,
but Python is 5-10X faster.
--
GreyGeek

Heu...

I search for a graphical DATA MODEL designer in linux to developp my
database project (to draw) it on screen instead of paper and pencil...

Thanks for answers about Database GUI developper... I will surely need
it later but for now, I want to "draw" boxes etc... on screen for my
tables and interactions.

I don't know about UML (somebody told me about it).

I'd like DBDesigner4 at this moment but I will have to test with ODBC
because it seems that postgresql isn't native support like mysql with
this tool...

Any other suggestions welcome.

I hope this message will be more accurate then the one before :)

Thanks every body for your advices.

Eric.

Although it is not Free I think that you should give EMS Postgres
Manager a try (www.ems-hitech.com), it Does pretty much everything that
MS-SQL Enterprise manger does, including a good Diagramming tool.

Embarcardo Technologies have some very good, (but expensive) Db design
tools , mostly for windows, but with very wide Database support
http://www.embarcadero.com/

AquaFold Aqua Data studio is a good Design tool, how good it is at
generating PL/SQL statements is something I have not tried
http://www.aquadatastudio.com/downloads.html

And The Kompany have a pretty decent, though relatively new product
called Data Architect, that appeared promising.
http://www.thekompany.com/home/
Cheers
Johan Wehtje

Eric wrote:

You could try DbDesigner(4) at http://dbdesigner.sourceforge.net/

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De : Johan Wehtje [mailto:joweht@tpgi.com.au]
Envoyé : lundi 8 novembre 2004 09:51
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Objet : Re: [GENERAL] Visual DATA MODEL Designer in linux?

Although it is not Free I think that you should give EMS Postgres
Manager a try (www.ems-hitech.com), it Does pretty much everything that
MS-SQL Enterprise manger does, including a good Diagramming tool.

Embarcardo Technologies have some very good, (but expensive) Db design
tools , mostly for windows, but with very wide Database support
http://www.embarcadero.com/

AquaFold Aqua Data studio is a good Design tool, how good it is at
generating PL/SQL statements is something I have not tried
http://www.aquadatastudio.com/downloads.html

And The Kompany have a pretty decent, though relatively new product
called Data Architect, that appeared promising.
http://www.thekompany.com/home/
Cheers
Johan Wehtje

Eric wrote:

Heu...

I search for a graphical DATA MODEL designer in linux to developp my
database project (to draw) it on screen instead of paper and pencil...

Thanks for answers about Database GUI developper... I will surely need
it later but for now, I want to "draw" boxes etc... on screen for my
tables and interactions.

I don't know about UML (somebody told me about it).

I'd like DBDesigner4 at this moment but I will have to test with ODBC
because it seems that postgresql isn't native support like mysql with
this tool...

Any other suggestions welcome.

I hope this message will be more accurate then the one before :)

Thanks every body for your advices.

Eric.

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Eric wrote:

Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would
like to developp my data model on the computer...

I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL.

GerWin: http://es.gnu.org/~jemarch/cgi-bin/index.pl?Site=GerWin
Design your database as though you were using Microsoft Access (including
relationships), it will then write the necessary code to implement that
design in several different languages, including Postgres.

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are hydrogen and stupidity." --Harlan Ellison