Re: Repeated? Transient Delivery Failure (fwd)
I'm getting one of these every 4 hours or so.....
Can it be fixed?
It's that idiot at colina.com --- AFAICT he's currently bouncing all
hackers mail back to the author and any To/CC addressees, including the
list submission address. I'm not seeing his author bounces anymore
because I have 24.244.157.4 router-blocked, but I am still getting
"Stalled due to duplicate message-ID" notices from the listserv every
time I post something to hackers and he regurgitates it. I shudder to
think of what's happening to Marc's moderation queue.
It looks like my router block is causing him to send complaints to the
original authors of regurgitated messages about how he can't deliver my
copy, any time I'm in the To: list :-(. I didn't think it was possible
to misconfigure a mail daemon that badly, but he seems to have managed it.
The correct solution is for Marc to forcibly unsubscribe
gpratt@colina.com, but I have not been able to get Marc to do anything
about it (he does have a lot of more-significant problems on his plate
at the moment). In the meantime, a twit filter on your end might be
in order, if you can set one up easily.
regards, tom lane
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The attached message had transient non-fatal delivery errors
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--On Tuesday, May 13, 2003 09:16:44 -0700 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
wrote:
Guys,
One dumb question:
What numbers are INT_MAX and DBL_MAX in C?
The maximum for that type that can be represented. It's platform dependent.
on FreeBSD 4:
#define INT_MAX 0x7fffffff /* max value for an int */
#define DBL_MAX 1.7976931348623157E+308
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--On Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:09:08 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
wrote:
I'm getting one of these every 4 hours or so.....
Can it be fixed?
[snip]
the moment). In the meantime, a twit filter on your end might be
in order, if you can set one up easily.
done....
:0
* ^From:.*MDaemon@colina.mail
/dev/null
regards, tom lane
------------ Forwarded Message ------------
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:49:41 -0400
From: MDaemon@colina.mail
To: ler@lerctr.org
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Subject: Transient Delivery FailureThe attached message had transient non-fatal delivery errors
THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY - YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE!
This server is configured to automatically retry delivery at configured
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--- Session Transcript --- MX-record resolution of [sss.pgh.pa.us] in progress (DNS Server: 208.246.140.194)... P=020 D=sss.pgh.pa.us TTL=(474) MX=[sss-backup.pgh.pa.us] {216.151.103.158} P=010 D=sss.pgh.pa.us TTL=(474) MX=[sss.pgh.pa.us] {192.204.191.242} Attempting MX: P=010 D=sss.pgh.pa.us TTL=(474) MX=[sss.pgh.pa.us] {192.204.191.242} Attempting SMTP connection to [192.204.191.242 : 25] Waiting for socket connection... Winsock Error 10060 The connection timed out. Attempting MX: P=020 D=sss.pgh.pa.us TTL=(474) MX=[sss-backup.pgh.pa.us] {216.151.103.158} Attempting SMTP connection to [216.151.103.158 : 25] Waiting for socket connection... Winsock Error 10060 The connection timed out. This message is 0 days old; it has 5 days left to get delivered --- End Transcript --- : Message contains [1] file attachments---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
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Content-Disposition: inline--On Tuesday, May 13, 2003 09:16:44 -0700 Josh Berkus
<josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:Guys,
One dumb question:
What numbers are INT_MAX and DBL_MAX in C?
The maximum for that type that can be represented. It's platform
dependent.on FreeBSD 4:
# define INT_MAX 0x7fffffff /* max value for an int */
# define DBL_MAX 1.7976931348623157E+308--
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
I didn't think it was possible
to misconfigure a mail daemon that badly, but he seems to have managed it.
Dunstan's theorem for the day states "The degreee to which a mail daemon can
be misconfigured is unbounded." Proof (if any more is needed) is left to the
reader.
The correct solution is for Marc to forcibly unsubscribe
gpratt@colina.com, but I have not been able to get Marc to do anything
about it (he does have a lot of more-significant problems on his plate
at the moment).
Maybe having more than one list admin might be a good idea?
andrew
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--On Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:51:53 -0400 Andrew Dunstan
<andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>I didn't think it was possible
to misconfigure a mail daemon that badly, but he seems to have managed
it.Dunstan's theorem for the day states "The degreee to which a mail daemon
can be misconfigured is unbounded." Proof (if any more is needed) is left
to the reader.
I work for an ISP, you should see some of the stuff our Customer Care
people need
to fix. Cluelessness abounds.
The correct solution is for Marc to forcibly unsubscribe
gpratt@colina.com, but I have not been able to get Marc to do anything
about it (he does have a lot of more-significant problems on his plate
at the moment).Maybe having more than one list admin might be a good idea?
If I can help in this regard, I'm willing.....
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