Gborg and pgfoundry

Started by Bruce Momjianover 19 years ago14 messages
#1Bruce Momjian
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the move.

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#2David Fetter
david@fetter.org
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the
move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in
order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering
to do?

Cheers,
D
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#3Bruce Momjian
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us
In reply to: David Fetter (#2)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

David Fetter wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the
move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in
order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering
to do?

I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no
motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this
migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty.

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#4Joshua D. Drake
jd@commandprompt.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#3)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Bruce Momjian wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the
move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in
order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering
to do?

I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no
motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this
migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty.

I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off a limb.

Joshua D. Drake

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#5David Fetter
david@fetter.org
In reply to: Joshua D. Drake (#4)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:13AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force
the move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming
work in order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you
volunteering to do?

I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is
no motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing
this migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it
dirty.

I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off
a limb.

It would be a great service to the community if people could
document--maybe in some kind of wiki or something--just how they did
each piece. We could also put stuff on the front of gborg, mail every
project lead, etc., etc. In other words, a concerted effort here
would have non-trivial overhead, but also non-trivial pay-off :)

Let's start with the first thing: What features map on gborg map to
which features on pgfoundry?

Cheers,
D
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#6Marc G. Fournier
scrappy@postgresql.org
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#3)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the
move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in
order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering
to do?

I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no
motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this
migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty.

gborg won't be shut down until Josh et al are ready with pgfoundry ...
and, right now, the 'et al' is fairly busy with stuff like OSDN and the
Anniversary which are quickly approaching ...

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#7Larry Rosenman
lrosenman@pervasive.com
In reply to: Marc G. Fournier (#6)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

David Fetter wrote:

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:13AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force
the move.

Bruce,

You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming
work in order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you
volunteering to do?

I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is
no motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing
this migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it
dirty.

I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off
a limb.

It would be a great service to the community if people could
document--maybe in some kind of wiki or something--just how they did
each piece. We could also put stuff on the front of gborg, mail every
project lead, etc., etc. In other words, a concerted effort here
would have non-trivial overhead, but also non-trivial pay-off :)

Let's start with the first thing: What features map on gborg map to
which features on pgfoundry?

I've offered to help with this, but things are so poorly documented that
I have to guess where things are, and I'm not one that's used either
site.

I do have a bunch of sysadmin knowledge, and script writing ability, but
knowledge of how each is set up, is resident in a very small minority of
the
folks that help run things.

I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community"
projects,
and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more
information about
how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and
lots of the
people have no idea how it is set up.

I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough.

Larry Rosenman

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#8Andrew Dunstan
andrew@dunslane.net
In reply to: Larry Rosenman (#7)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Larry Rosenman wrote:

I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community"
projects,
and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more
information about
how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and
lots of the
people have no idea how it is set up.

I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough.

Larry,

I don't have any knowledge of gborg, but I do have pretty good knowledge
of how everything works on pgfoundry. Feel free to ping me on IRC or via
email if you have questions.

I am as impatient as everyone to get this done.

cheers

andrew

#9Marc G. Fournier
scrappy@postgresql.org
In reply to: Andrew Dunstan (#8)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Andrew Dunstan wrote:

Larry Rosenman wrote:

I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community"
projects, and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more
information about
how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and
lots of the people have no idea how it is set up.
I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough.

Larry,

I don't have any knowledge of gborg, but I do have pretty good knowledge of
how everything works on pgfoundry. Feel free to ping me on IRC or via email
if you have questions.

The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already done?
Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major scripting
effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of things,
which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing?

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#10Joshua D. Drake
jd@commandprompt.com
In reply to: Marc G. Fournier (#9)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already
done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major
scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of
things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing?

I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question is:

Where is the scripting?

Joshua D. Drake

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#11Larry Rosenman
lrosenman@pervasive.com
In reply to: Joshua D. Drake (#10)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already
done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major
scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side
of things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot
of testing?

I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question
is:

Where is the scripting?

it's in an admin project on pgfoundry, and VERY lacking in details.

It assumes a LOT of knowledge that is not readily apparent.

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#12Marc G. Fournier
scrappy@postgresql.org
In reply to: Joshua D. Drake (#10)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Last I heard, JoshB was working on testing it ...

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already done?
Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major scripting
effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of things, which
I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing?

I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question is:

Where is the scripting?

Joshua D. Drake

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#13Josh Berkus
josh@agliodbs.com
In reply to: Marc G. Fournier (#9)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Marc,

The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already
done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major
scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of
things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of
testing?

There is, let me send link to Larry.

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PostgreSQL @ Sun
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#14Josh Berkus
josh@agliodbs.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: Gborg and pgfoundry

Bruce,

I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the move.

Looking more like mid-June. I didn't have the time for this at the
beginning of May that I thought I would have.

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Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco