Developer TODO List as a PostgreSQL DB

deductive@Kutoma.com wrote:

Hallo to all,

Just wondering after reading so many mails from Hackers List.(its 2.15 AM now!!)
Is there anybody working on something to create a DB from

What?

Joshua D. Drake

a) The TODO list http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
b) The sourcecode of PostgreSQL
c) The relevant Mailings from the developers lists

Not sure if someone was dealing with similar thoughts.PostgreSQL is such a great
tool
to get you organized so that I wonder why the 3 most important things of this
project are not organized like a PostgreSQL DB

Thanks for any feedback

Gottfried

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Gottfried,

Just wondering after reading so many mails from Hackers List.(its 2.15 AM
now!!) Is there anybody working on something to create a DB from
a) The TODO list http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
b) The sourcecode of PostgreSQL
c) The relevant Mailings from the developers lists

Of those, only the TODO makes sense as a DB. You're welcome to go for it.

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On 2/26/07, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:

Just wondering after reading so many mails from Hackers List.(its 2.15AM
now!!) Is there anybody working on something to create a DB from
a) The TODO list http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
b) The sourcecode of PostgreSQL
c) The relevant Mailings from the developers lists

Of those, only the TODO makes sense as a DB. You're welcome to go for it.

The TODO list is a bit outdated, and it would make sense to make it into a
web page and assign names to the tasks and which releases the TODO task will
make it in. Perhaps it would even be useful for folks to post their WIP
patches, status updates, etc to such a page?

Any comments? I am willing to chip in. I could only imagine the current
workload for maintaining this is a bit overwhelming.

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 08:41 -0500, Chad Wagner wrote:

The TODO list is a bit outdated,

Really?

and it would make sense to make it into a web page and assign names to
the tasks and which releases the TODO task will make it in. Perhaps
it would even be useful for folks to post their WIP patches, status
updates, etc to such a page?

Please read the archives.
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Chad Wagner wrote:

On 2/26/07, *Josh Berkus* <josh@agliodbs.com
<mailto:josh@agliodbs.com>> wrote:

Just wondering after reading so many mails from Hackers

List.(its 2.15 AM

now!!) Is there anybody working on something to create a DB from
a) The TODO list http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
b) The sourcecode of PostgreSQL
c) The relevant Mailings from the developers lists

Of those, only the TODO makes sense as a DB. You're welcome to go
for it.

The TODO list is a bit outdated, and it would make sense to make it
into a web page and assign names to the tasks and which releases the
TODO task will make it in. Perhaps it would even be useful for folks
to post their WIP patches, status updates, etc to such a page?

Any comments? I am willing to chip in. I could only imagine the
current workload for maintaining this is a bit overwhelming.

Before we rehash recent debates, please, everybody, review them. Going
over and over and over the same ground laboriously is really getting
tiresome, and unfortunately it's also getting more frequent. It's *d�j�
vu *all over again.

And, for the record, I do not see the slightest point in putting the
TODO list on its own into a database. None, zilch, nada. As database
professionals we should be adept at recognising when the use of a
database is appropriate and when it isn't. If we put it into a tracking
system (presumably database backed) that would be another matter, but
that has gone nowhere as usual.

There is some point in putting it in a wiki where we can gather relevant
documents, links to discussions etc. That's why the developers' wiki was
established, AIUI.

cheers

andrew

On 2/27/07, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:

Before we rehash recent debates, please, everybody, review them. Going
over and over and over the same ground laboriously is really getting
tiresome, and unfortunately it's also getting more frequent. It's *déjà
vu *all over again.

History does tend to repeat itself, doesn't it? I just assumed it was never
discussed based on Josh's response.

database is appropriate and when it isn't. If we put it into a tracking

system (presumably database backed) that would be another matter, but
that has gone nowhere as usual.

A tracking system is what I was referring to, if it didn't have a front-end
then it would be quite pointless to have it in a database. Honestly, I
think Trac even does this, but I am far from familiar with that tool -- I
have just seen other projects with "roadmap" items which categorized TODO
tasks into future releases.

There is some point in putting it in a wiki where we can gather relevant

documents, links to discussions etc. That's why the developers' wiki was
established, AIUI.

To be honest, it may be adequate to maintain this solely through the Wiki.
The only thing I see lacking is specifically who is handling tasks, and what
release it is planned for. Perhaps, I am just looking in the wrong place?

Chad Wagner wrote:

There is some point in putting it in a wiki where we can gather
relevant
documents, links to discussions etc. That's why the developers'
wiki was
established, AIUI.

To be honest, it may be adequate to maintain this solely through the
Wiki. The only thing I see lacking is specifically who is handling
tasks, and what release it is planned for. Perhaps, I am just looking
in the wrong place?

There's a good reason this information is missing: it doesn't exist.
Please, like I said, have a look at recent discussions.

Maybe we need some extra FAQs, like:

. Why do you still use CVS instead of <insert favorite SCM system here>?
. Why don't you use bug tracking software?
. Where do I find out when <insert desired feature here> will be in a
release?

cheers

andrew

Andrew Dunstan wrote:

Chad Wagner wrote:

There is some point in putting it in a wiki where we can gather
relevant
documents, links to discussions etc. That's why the developers'
wiki was
established, AIUI.

To be honest, it may be adequate to maintain this solely through the
Wiki. The only thing I see lacking is specifically who is handling
tasks, and what release it is planned for. Perhaps, I am just looking
in the wrong place?

There's a good reason this information is missing: it doesn't exist.
Please, like I said, have a look at recent discussions.

Maybe we need some extra FAQs, like:

. Why do you still use CVS instead of <insert favorite SCM system here>?
. Why don't you use bug tracking software?
. Where do I find out when <insert desired feature here> will be in a
release?

yeah .. would be a good idea .. with some links to key posts in the
archive .. would be much less work than replying all the time .. and
would also make it easier for new comers to not burn their fingers at
rehashing things needlessly ..

regards,
Lukas

On Feb 27, 2007, at 23:40 , Andrew Dunstan wrote:

Maybe we need some extra FAQs, like:

. Why do you still use CVS instead of <insert favorite SCM system
here>?

I just saw a patch from Robert Treat on just this topic. Doesn't look
like its been applied yet.

Michael Glaesemann
grzm seespotcode net

And, for the record, I do not see the slightest point in putting the
TODO list on its own into a database. None, zilch, nada. As database
professionals we should be adept at recognising when the use of a
database is appropriate and when it isn't. If we put it into a tracking
system (presumably database backed) that would be another matter, but
that has gone nowhere as usual.

As someone who has been involved in these discussions over and over, I
would suggest that everyone just drop the whole thing. It won't go
anywhere, and it just isn't worth the 3 cents of bandwidth it would cost
to send the emails.

Joshua D. Drake

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Hi ,

Is there any method or utility to convert content of WAL files into
Human Readable format.

Regards
J Mageshwaran

Andrew Dunstan wrote:

Chad Wagner wrote:

On 2/26/07, *Josh Berkus* <josh@agliodbs.com
<mailto:josh@agliodbs.com>> wrote:

Just wondering after reading so many mails from Hackers

List.(its 2.15 AM

now!!) Is there anybody working on something to create a DB from
a) The TODO list http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
b) The sourcecode of PostgreSQL
c) The relevant Mailings from the developers lists

Of those, only the TODO makes sense as a DB. You're welcome to go
for it.

The TODO list is a bit outdated, and it would make sense to make it
into a web page and assign names to the tasks and which releases the
TODO task will make it in. Perhaps it would even be useful for folks
to post their WIP patches, status updates, etc to such a page?

Any comments? I am willing to chip in. I could only imagine the
current workload for maintaining this is a bit overwhelming.

Before we rehash recent debates, please, everybody, review them. Going
over and over and over the same ground laboriously is really getting
tiresome, and unfortunately it's also getting more frequent. It's
*d�j� vu *all over again.

And, for the record, I do not see the slightest point in putting the
TODO list on its own into a database. None, zilch, nada. As database
professionals we should be adept at recognising when the use of a
database is appropriate and when it isn't. If we put it into a
tracking system (presumably database backed) that would be another
matter, but that has gone nowhere as usual.

There is some point in putting it in a wiki where we can gather
relevant documents, links to discussions etc. That's why the
developers' wiki was established, AIUI.

cheers

andrew

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Is there any method or utility to convert content of WAL files into
Human Readable format.

xlogdump (or xlog viewer) might help. Sorry, I've never used it yet.
http://pgfoundry.org/projects/xlogviewer/

On 2/28/07, Mageshwaran <j_mageshwaran@sifycorp.com> wrote:

Is there any method or utility to convert content of WAL files into
Human Readable format.

Not really. The only two WAL utilities available that I know of are
Tom's xlogdump and the SoC project based on it called XlogViewer.

http://pgfoundry.org/projects/xlogviewer/

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On 2/28/07, Mageshwaran <j_mageshwaran@sifycorp.com> wrote:

Is there any method or utility to convert content of WAL files into
Human Readable format.

Not really. The only two WAL utilities available that I know of are
Tom's xlogdump and the SoC project based on it called XlogViewer.

http://pgfoundry.org/projects/xlogviewer/

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Hi ,

I want setup replication for postgres server , please help me on this
issue. I dont want to use any third party programs. I like to do it
using WAL.

Regards
J Mageshwaran

Mageshwaran wrote:

I want setup replication for postgres server , please help me on this
issue. I dont want to use any third party programs. I like to do it
using WAL.

This is not the correct list for these kinds of questions. Please try
pgsql-general instead. Thanks.

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Hi

Just to add an question to it.. do we have a felixbitily to run this
xlogdump or xlogviewer on windows installation of Postgres. Also how do we
run these utilities with the existing postgres server running on linux box.

thanks

Vishal

From: "Jonah H. Harris" <jonah.harris@gmail.com>
To: Mageshwaran <j_mageshwaran@sifycorp.com>
CC: "Andrew Dunstan" <andrew@dunslane.net>, "Chad Wagner"
<chad.wagner@gmail.com>, "Josh Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com>,
pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, deductive@kutoma.com
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] POSTGRES WAL
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:51:22 -0500

On 2/28/07, Mageshwaran <j_mageshwaran@sifycorp.com> wrote:

Is there any method or utility to convert content of WAL files into
Human Readable format.

Not really. The only two WAL utilities available that I know of are
Tom's xlogdump and the SoC project based on it called XlogViewer.

http://pgfoundry.org/projects/xlogviewer/

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EnterpriseDB Corporation | fax: 732.331.1301
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