Developers globe

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#1Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

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#2Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

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#3The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Would a 'flat-map' be more friendly? Just looking at it right now, and
I'm on a T1 at work, and its "stalled"...and altho I can see the red dot
around Toronto, its "Faint"...

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

#4Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#3)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Would a 'flat-map' be more friendly? Just looking at it right now, and
I'm on a T1 at work, and its "stalled"...and altho I can see the red dot
around Toronto, its "Faint"...

That may be better. I can make it larger, or can someone send me a flat
earth map to use.

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#5Egon Schmid
eschmid@stuttgart.netsurf.de
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#3)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

-Egon

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

Show quoted text

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Would a 'flat-map' be more friendly? Just looking at it right now, and
I'm on a T1 at work, and its "stalled"...and altho I can see the red dot
around Toronto, its "Faint"...

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

#6The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Egon Schmid (#5)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Egon Schmid wrote:

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

Want to build up a sample of what you are proposing and let us see it?

-Egon

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Would a 'flat-map' be more friendly? Just looking at it right now, and
I'm on a T1 at work, and its "stalled"...and altho I can see the red dot
around Toronto, its "Faint"...

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

#7Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#6)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On 08-Mar-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote:

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Egon Schmid wrote:

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

Want to build up a sample of what you are proposing and let us see it?

Look at the national directory on camping-usa. The map was drawn with
lon-lat coordinates for the US and each state and the red dots were put
in place with lon-lat coords. (The clickable map translates the XY to
lon-lat) I don't know how you'd put names in it, tho, without making
the image rather large.

Vince.
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#8Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#6)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Egon Schmid wrote:

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

Want to build up a sample of what you are proposing and let us see it?

Yes, I can do that with xearth. Very easy. But xearth produces a very
large image, not really proper for a browser, unless we forget the
rotation, and just grab western and eastern hemisphere images and put
the names on there.

With names, that is going to be a large image. Do we want that?

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#9Egon Schmid
eschmid@stuttgart.netsurf.de
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#8)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

I have seen xearth on my Debian system with the most Debian maintainers
spread around the globe. I think there is a flag for project so no htere
is no need to put western and eastern hemispheres together. xearth is
trimmed to run in a X Windows background.

-Egon

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Show quoted text

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Egon Schmid wrote:

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

Want to build up a sample of what you are proposing and let us see it?

Yes, I can do that with xearth. Very easy. But xearth produces a very
large image, not really proper for a browser, unless we forget the
rotation, and just grab western and eastern hemisphere images and put
the names on there.

With names, that is going to be a large image. Do we want that?

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#10The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#7)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

You don't really need nams associated iwth the dots, just make the dots
reasonably accurate...put a long/lat beside each name in the list, and
country or whatnot...

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On 08-Mar-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote:

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Egon Schmid wrote:

Wht not collect the lon and lat for xearth? Then you can stick the
developers name around the red circle.

Want to build up a sample of what you are proposing and let us see it?

Look at the national directory on camping-usa. The map was drawn with
lon-lat coordinates for the US and each state and the red dots were put
in place with lon-lat coords. (The clickable map translates the XY to
lon-lat) I don't know how you'd put names in it, tho, without making
the image rather large.

Vince.
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#11Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#10)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On 08-Mar-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote:

You don't really need nams associated iwth the dots, just make the dots
reasonably accurate...put a long/lat beside each name in the list, and
country or whatnot...

'cept xearth isn't using lon/lat - unless it's changed from the v1.0 source
I have here (from the 2.2.8 ports collection CD).

Vince.
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#12D'Arcy J.M. Cain
darcy@druid.net
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

Thus spake Bruce Momjian

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Hmmm. I tried to go there but for some reason I keep getting bounced
to Saskatchewan which I assume doesn't have the updates yet. Any idea
why I don't go to the main site? After all, I'm on the same LAN basically.
It seems silly to go out to the net to a mirror.

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#13Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#12)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

"D'Arcy" "J.M." Cain <darcy@druid.net> writes:

Hmmm. I tried to go there but for some reason I keep getting bounced
to Saskatchewan which I assume doesn't have the updates yet. Any idea
why I don't go to the main site? After all, I'm on the same LAN basically.
It seems silly to go out to the net to a mirror.

I just figured this out yesterday:

http://www.postgresql.org/ ---> redirection 'bot
http://www.postgresql.org/index.html ---> master site

The 'bot is good for load sharing, but when you want to see the latest
updates it's a real pain. I'm glad it's possible to bypass it.

regards, tom lane

#14Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#12)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

Thus spake Bruce Momjian

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Hmmm. I tried to go there but for some reason I keep getting bounced
to Saskatchewan which I assume doesn't have the updates yet. Any idea
why I don't go to the main site? After all, I'm on the same LAN basically.
It seems silly to go out to the net to a mirror.

Yes. If you do:

http://www.postgresql.org/index.html

you are forced to the main site. Marc told me this a while ago.

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#15The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#12)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:

Thus spake Bruce Momjian

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

As an example, I have added Toronto to the globe, which I believe is the
location of our server, and where D'Arcy lives.

Hmmm. I tried to go there but for some reason I keep getting bounced
to Saskatchewan which I assume doesn't have the updates yet. Any idea
why I don't go to the main site? After all, I'm on the same LAN basically.
It seems silly to go out to the net to a mirror.

Just the way the redirect software is setup...you can cheat it though:

http://www.postgresql.org/index.html

:)

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

#16Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

OK, larger dots. I added a dot for myself and Tom Lane. Europe will be
all red once I am done. Things are very imprecise at that size.

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#17Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

OK, now the dot is huge. Marc, Tom Lane, and I fit in the same dot.
Looks good, though.

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#18Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#17)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

OK, now the dot is huge. Marc, Tom Lane, and I fit in the same dot.
Looks good, though.

No, Toronto/D'Arch, Tom Lane, and I are in the same dot. Marc gets his
on more east than us.

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#19Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

OK, I have installed a rotating globe on the developers page. After I
get all the developer locations, I will add red dots to the globe.

OK, I have big dots for almost everyone. How does it look. The moving
of the dots is because I was sloppy, but I just wanted to do it quick to
see how it looks.

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#20Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#10)
Re: [HACKERS] Developers globe

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

You don't really need nams associated iwth the dots, just make the dots
reasonably accurate...put a long/lat beside each name in the list, and
country or whatnot...

Alternatively you might put a map behind it and use some
Jscript to write the names into the status line when the
pointer is over the dots.

Jan

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#21Vince Vielhaber
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#107Tatsuo Ishii
t-ishii@sra.co.jp
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#106)
#108Terry Mackintosh
terry@terrym.com
In reply to: Tatsuo Ishii (#107)
#109Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#99)
#110Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#109)
#111The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#109)
#112The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#110)
#113Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#112)
#114Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#109)
#115Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#110)
#116Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#113)
#117Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#115)
#118Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#117)
#119The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#114)
#120Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#119)
#121Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#120)
#122Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#121)
#123Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#106)
#124Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#123)
#125Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#119)
#126Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#125)
#127The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#124)
#128The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#126)
#129Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#127)
#130Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#127)
#131Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#128)
#132The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#130)
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#132)
#134Hal Snyder
DrXyzzy@mediaone.net
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#130)
#135Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Hal Snyder (#134)
#136Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#135)
#137Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#136)
#138Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#137)
#139The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Hal Snyder (#134)
#140Clark Evans
clark.evans@manhattanproject.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#132)
#141Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Clark Evans (#140)
#142Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Clark Evans (#140)
#143Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#141)
#144Clark Evans
clark.evans@manhattanproject.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#141)
#145Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#142)
#146Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Clark Evans (#144)
#147Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#145)
#148Taral
taral@cyberjunkie.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#147)
#149Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#143)
#150The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#142)
#151Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#150)
#152Hal Snyder
DrXyzzy@mediaone.net
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#151)
#153Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#150)
#154Clark Evans
clark.evans@manhattanproject.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#153)
#155Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#153)
#156Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Clark Evans (#154)
#157Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#155)
#158The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#153)
#159The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Clark Evans (#154)
#160Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#158)
#161Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#159)
#162Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#158)
#163Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#161)
#164Taral
taral@cyberjunkie.com
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#163)
#165Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Taral (#164)
#166Taral
taral@cyberjunkie.com
In reply to: Vince Vielhaber (#165)
#167The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#161)
#168Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#167)
#169Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#168)
#170Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#169)
#171D'Arcy J.M. Cain
darcy@druid.net
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#168)
#172Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#171)
#173Jan Wieck
JanWieck@Yahoo.com
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#171)
#174The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#168)
#175The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#173)
#176Kaare Rasmussen
kar@webline.dk
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#175)
#177Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jan Wieck (#170)
#178Michael Davis
michael.davis@prevuenet.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#177)
#179The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Kaare Rasmussen (#176)
#180The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org
In reply to: Michael Davis (#178)
#181Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#180)
#182Hal Snyder
DrXyzzy@mediaone.net
In reply to: Kaare Rasmussen (#176)