7.5 features
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)
If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.
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I think great would be an understatement.
Great work all!
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Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)
If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.
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On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:27, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.
Sounds like the biggest release since 7.0 to me, and all good stuff. I do have
a nagging concern with the Windows support though. I'm guessing most people
running Windows servers will either be running php on top, or have windows
clients. AFAIK this means .NET or ODBC, and for older Access-based systems
upgrading definitely ODBC.
Dave Page has bravely stepped into the breach to maintain the ODBC driver, but
the niggles in it will generate a flood of support messages as Windows users
test it out. Basically, I'm asking what would need to be done technically for
the ODBC driver, and is there anything a non-hacker can do to help?
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Richard Huxton
Archonet Ltd
El Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:27, Bruce Momjian escribió:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.
How's Jans' Slowny-I doing? Any chance of getting it at least in the contribs
(depending on how stable it gets)?
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Richard Huxton wrote:
Dave Page has bravely stepped into the breach to maintain the ODBC
driver, but the niggles in it will generate a flood of support messages
as Windows users test it out. Basically, I'm asking what would need to
be done technically for the ODBC driver, and is there anything a
non-hacker can do to help?
First question ... what niggles?
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Martin Marques wrote:
El Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:27, Bruce Momjian escribió:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.How's Jans' Slowny-I doing? Any chance of getting it at least in the contribs
(depending on how stable it gets)?
Zero chance ... Slony-I is *a* replication solution, not *the*
replication solution ... unless someone ever comes up with an 'end all and
be all' replication solution (which, personally, I don't think will ever
happen), we should not be officially endorsing any one replication
solution ...
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On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:22, Martin Marques wrote:
How's Jans' Slowny-I doing? Any chance of getting it at least in the
contribs (depending on how stable it gets)?
There was a post from Jan the other day (on General iirc) - I think he's
looking for testers at the moment before he goes to feature-freeze.
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Richard Huxton
Archonet Ltd
How's Jans' Slowny-I doing? Any chance of getting it at least in the contribs
(depending on how stable it gets)?Zero chance ... Slony-I is *a* replication solution, not *the*
replication solution ... unless someone ever comes up with an 'end all and
Not to mention Jan doesn't want it to be in contrib as that would imply
it was version specific. One of the more popular uses of Slony will be
version upgrades with minimal downtime.
Martin Marques wrote:
El Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:27, Bruce Momjian escribi?:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.How's Jans' Slowny-I doing? Any chance of getting it at least in the contribs
(depending on how stable it gets)?
Yep, I forgot that, though it is independent of the 7.5 release. I
think Jan will make a final release in a few months. I also should
mention server-side java, again also an independent project.
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On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 09:27, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.
Dare I even mention calling it 8.0? (ducks and runs for cover...)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)
Not to rain on the parade, but the *only* one of these I have any
confidence in seeing for 7.5 is the last (Windows port). The others
are still mostly or entirely handwaving, and I do not think we will
hold up the release for them once the Windows port starts looking
stable enough to beta-test.
regards, tom lane
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Richard Huxton wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:27, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)If we get the majority of them, and I think we will, this will be a
great release.Sounds like the biggest release since 7.0 to me, and all good stuff. I do have
a nagging concern with the Windows support though. I'm guessing most people
running Windows servers will either be running php on top, or have windows
clients. AFAIK this means .NET or ODBC, and for older Access-based systems
upgrading definitely ODBC.Dave Page has bravely stepped into the breach to maintain the ODBC driver, but
the niggles in it will generate a flood of support messages as Windows users
test it out. Basically, I'm asking what would need to be done technically for
the ODBC driver, and is there anything a non-hacker can do to help?
I would say the OLE-DB driver would be nice to have ready to go. There
are apparently a few projects on source forge to make one that are making
good progress, and it would be nice to have a fairly workable solution
about the time 7.5 rolls out.
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
Here are features that are being worked on, hopefully for 7.5:
o tablespaces (Gavin)
o nested transactions (Alvaro)
o two-phase commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
o integrated pg_autovacuum (O'Connor)
o PITR (Riggs)
o Win32 (Claudio, Magnus)Not to rain on the parade, but the *only* one of these I have any
confidence in seeing for 7.5 is the last (Windows port). The others
are still mostly or entirely handwaving, and I do not think we will
hold up the release for them once the Windows port starts looking
stable enough to beta-test.
Gavin says he has patches for tablespaces, Alvaro has submitted patches
already, server-side java is heading into beta, and Heikki has two-phase
commit patches because he already worried about drift. PITR patches
have been submitted too. I wouldn't call them done, but I wouldn't call
them handwaving either.
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their patches
and get them submitted.
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What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their patches
and get them submitted.
Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the station
pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.
regards, tom lane
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their patches
and get them submitted.
Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the station
pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.
regards, tom lane
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Tom Lane said:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their
patches and get them submitted.Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the
station pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.
Not quite yet - yesterday I got hold of a windows box for the first time
in months and had significant building problems (the symlink problem and
others). This needs to be robust. I will be sending in some fixes in due
course.
Is it time to set a tentative target date for a feature freeze, though?
Perhaps some time in mid to late June would be good. That way people could
work to a known timeline.
cheers
andrew
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Tom Lane said:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their
patches and get them submitted.Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the
station pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.Not quite yet - yesterday I got hold of a windows box for the first time
in months and had significant building problems (the symlink problem and
others). This needs to be robust. I will be sending in some fixes in due
course.Is it time to set a tentative target date for a feature freeze, though?
Perhaps some time in mid to late June would be good. That way people could
work to a known timeline.
Yes, that was the timeline I was considering too.
Folks, we can be sure you have until the end of May to complete items,
but after that, we don't know how soon the feature freeze will happen.
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Tom Lane said:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their
patches and get them submitted.Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the
station pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.Not quite yet - yesterday I got hold of a windows box for the first time
in months and had significant building problems (the symlink problem and
others). This needs to be robust. I will be sending in some fixes in due
course.Is it time to set a tentative target date for a feature freeze, though?
Perhaps some time in mid to late June would be good. That way people could
work to a known timeline.
Right now, the feature freeze is tentative for 1st of June, which has been
thrown around a few times already ...
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
Right now, the feature freeze is tentative for 1st of June, which has been
thrown around a few times already ...
If it has I've missed it - always seemed somewhat vaguer to me.
Thanks
andrew
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Tom Lane said:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
What we really need is for these folks to start finalizing their
patches and get them submitted.Eggzackle ... my point is that I see the win32 train leaving the
station pretty soon, and I don't see anyone else ready to get on board.Not quite yet - yesterday I got hold of a windows box for the first time
in months and had significant building problems (the symlink problem and
others). This needs to be robust. I will be sending in some fixes in due
course.Is it time to set a tentative target date for a feature freeze, though?
Perhaps some time in mid to late June would be good. That way people could
work to a known timeline.Right now, the feature freeze is tentative for 1st of June, which has been
thrown around a few times already ...
Yea, I think I remember that date being mentioned.
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pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
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